Do Us Shortlister Really Have A Chance?
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*sigh* What a dissapointment. 
I guess all we can do is hang in there and hope we don't get kicked off the list while waiting!
Keep your head up everyone...we're all in the same boat.
I guess all we can do is hang in there and hope we don't get kicked off the list while waiting!Keep your head up everyone...we're all in the same boat.
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I'll Believe It When I See It!
No offence to anyone, but the way Qantas is, i'll believe it when i see it! If I'm still sitting on the shortlist July 04, then i'll believe it, but until then i'll just plod along. I am more than happy to sit and wait, but as people have said before, Qantas is just one big rumour mill, and only the guy at the top seems to know what's going on. With what's been going on recently, it's understandable, recruitment is slow. I'm thankful I'm on the shortlist, but fingers crossed we keep getting extended until we get the call!
Good luck everyone!
Good luck everyone!
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No offence but as a QF short haul crew member I HAVE to believe the information given by HR. I agree from time to time some areas within QF dont know whats happening from one day to the next but in general HR seem to know whats happening. The information posted was to keep people updated with information that is not readily available to the general public.
No offence but as a QF short haul crew member I HAVE to believe the information given by HR. I agree from time to time some areas within QF dont know whats happening from one day to the next but in general HR seem to know whats happening. The information posted was to keep people updated with information that is not readily available to the general public.
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GalleyHag, please don't think your info isn't appreciated, as any info when on the shortlist is greatly appreciated!but I deal with QF crew all day and even though it says that on the website, majority of them don't believe it! If this is the case, then as i've said before, i am more than happy to sit and wait, but as you can appreciate as I'm sure you've been in this same position, we hear story after story & a lot of them seem to be negative lately, so you really have to block some of it out and just carry on, even if it is true, but as we both agree, any info is welcomed.
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Just for your reference there is a VERY big difference between dealing with line cabin crew and the people in HR who give out this information. As you are well aware there is something like 6000 cabin crew but the information posted on that website comes directly from the managers responsible for the recruitment of cabin crew.
Just for your reference there is a VERY big difference between dealing with line cabin crew and the people in HR who give out this information. As you are well aware there is something like 6000 cabin crew but the information posted on that website comes directly from the managers responsible for the recruitment of cabin crew.
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I have to agree with Galley Hag
I sat down with cabin crew recruitment the other day, and had a chat about the future prospects of recruitment - I have several friends on the short list.
At this stage, we are still deemed to be overstaffed in both divisions, more so in short haul. Plus there are a lot of crew on leave without pay and temporary part time that will come back to full time flying in due course, again increasing our numbers.
No planned recruitment at all for this financial year.
The only possibility of recruitment would be on a casual basis, but that too is unlikely.
Sorry to bring bad news, but I wouldnt be sitting by the phone, waiting for a call, anytime soon
I sat down with cabin crew recruitment the other day, and had a chat about the future prospects of recruitment - I have several friends on the short list.
At this stage, we are still deemed to be overstaffed in both divisions, more so in short haul. Plus there are a lot of crew on leave without pay and temporary part time that will come back to full time flying in due course, again increasing our numbers.
No planned recruitment at all for this financial year.
The only possibility of recruitment would be on a casual basis, but that too is unlikely.
Sorry to bring bad news, but I wouldnt be sitting by the phone, waiting for a call, anytime soon
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I just interviewed for another job teaching English in Tokyo, and was offered it. (My second choice of jobs, Qantas being my first) The contract's for a year, so I guess it's worth my while accepting that job for the year, right? Considering the current state of Qantas recruitment, or non-recruitment!
I just don't want to get over to Tokyo and have to leave after a month or so cause Qantas has offered me a position, but I also don't want to wait around here for a year doing something I'm not enjoying. *sigh* Decisions, decisions!!
I just don't want to get over to Tokyo and have to leave after a month or so cause Qantas has offered me a position, but I also don't want to wait around here for a year doing something I'm not enjoying. *sigh* Decisions, decisions!!
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By the sounds of things FS747 there is going to be quite a wait before we get a call. If you take the job in Tokyo (which sounds fantastic) you can always come back home to take the job with Qantas when they call.
Besides, its more experience you'll be aquiring working with different cultures - experience that Qantas values.
Besides, its more experience you'll be aquiring working with different cultures - experience that Qantas values.
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Tough situation Flying Sarah!
From the sounds of it, there will be no intakes until at least mid-2004. No/minimal expansion (perhaps even contraction?) combined with overstaffing and the general state of the industry would lead me to think that mid-2004 seems pretty conservative for any considerable intake.
On a brighter note... the teaching opportunity sounds excellent! I am currently studying primary education at uni, and being in front of a class is such a buzz! I don't know how the airlines view teaching (hopefully favourably for me when i finally finish my degree and apply to one) but the experience of living in another culture for a year has got to be considered a plus!
Check the contract to see if you can break it early. If you can, go for it! If QANTAS call, you can accept the offer. If they don't, well, at least you won't feel like you've wasted the last 18 months sitting by the phone waiting for *that* call from QANTAS.
From the sounds of it, there will be no intakes until at least mid-2004. No/minimal expansion (perhaps even contraction?) combined with overstaffing and the general state of the industry would lead me to think that mid-2004 seems pretty conservative for any considerable intake.
On a brighter note... the teaching opportunity sounds excellent! I am currently studying primary education at uni, and being in front of a class is such a buzz! I don't know how the airlines view teaching (hopefully favourably for me when i finally finish my degree and apply to one) but the experience of living in another culture for a year has got to be considered a plus!
Check the contract to see if you can break it early. If you can, go for it! If QANTAS call, you can accept the offer. If they don't, well, at least you won't feel like you've wasted the last 18 months sitting by the phone waiting for *that* call from QANTAS.
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Take the job in Japan - it sounds fantastic!
Saloon's post sums it up pretty well. Better to go and have fun in Japan rather than sitting around waiting for QF to call. If they call you can come back home. You can't let being on a waitlist stop you from pursuing other excellent opportunties. QF will always need F/As ( unfortunately just not now ) and it's not every day that one gets the opportunity to live in Japan for a year.
Cheers and enjoy the sushi!
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Take the job in Japan - it sounds fantastic!
Saloon's post sums it up pretty well. Better to go and have fun in Japan rather than sitting around waiting for QF to call. If they call you can come back home. You can't let being on a waitlist stop you from pursuing other excellent opportunties. QF will always need F/As ( unfortunately just not now
) and it's not every day that one gets the opportunity to live in Japan for a year.Cheers and enjoy the sushi!
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Well, it's decided then. I think I'll be going to Tokyo for the year. I can break the contract and come home if I want, but that means I can never work for the company again, but if I got a job with Qantas I wouldn't be going back anyway!!! 
Thanks everyone for the replies, it definately helped put things into perspective!
Biscuit, it's with Nova, and I'm not sure of the exact location in Tokyo, they will tell me closer to the date of me leaving. Now I just have to break the news to my family...heehee
I've actually got another question regarding the QF shortlist.
I was just wondering, if they were to ring me one day and offer me a casual position, and I turned it down because casual isn't suitable to my needs, would I still be on the shortlist and be considered for other recruitments, or would that be my chance gone, and I'd be taken off the shortlist??
Would many of you accept a casual position? I don't know what I'd do yet. It'd be pretty hard to turn anything down! Are you able to move upto permanent from casual after a period of time?
Thanks everyone for the replies, it definately helped put things into perspective!
Biscuit, it's with Nova, and I'm not sure of the exact location in Tokyo, they will tell me closer to the date of me leaving. Now I just have to break the news to my family...heehee
I've actually got another question regarding the QF shortlist.
I was just wondering, if they were to ring me one day and offer me a casual position, and I turned it down because casual isn't suitable to my needs, would I still be on the shortlist and be considered for other recruitments, or would that be my chance gone, and I'd be taken off the shortlist??
Would many of you accept a casual position? I don't know what I'd do yet. It'd be pretty hard to turn anything down! Are you able to move upto permanent from casual after a period of time?
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job in japan
Glad to see you have decided to go to Japan.
I lived in Japan for 18 months and had an incredible experience. I chose to work out in the countryside in Nagano Prefecture as the people are very friendly and have the most beautiful hearts.
All the weirdo's reside in Tokyo so remember that if you don't like working for the company there are 100's of others that will snap you up in a heart beat.
Great money and one of the best experiences you will ever have. I am very jealous.
Good Luck.
I lived in Japan for 18 months and had an incredible experience. I chose to work out in the countryside in Nagano Prefecture as the people are very friendly and have the most beautiful hearts.
All the weirdo's reside in Tokyo so remember that if you don't like working for the company there are 100's of others that will snap you up in a heart beat.
Great money and one of the best experiences you will ever have. I am very jealous.
Good Luck.
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heard a quiet rumour from a friend of mine who is a Perth based CSM, that QF will be hiring some new short haul crew in the near future (next few weeks) to be based in Perth.... but believe that the positions will be offerred to current MAM casuals ..... not too sure, it is all a bit vague !
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So am I right in thinking that they're pretty much only gonna be hiring from the MAM casual short list, not the other short list for the people who interviewed in November/December 2002??
If they did offer us positions, it will more than likely be casual right??
If they did offer us positions, it will more than likely be casual right??
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Just wondering, how many people are actually in line for recruitment even before they look at shortlisters? Like, possibility MAM casuals would be offered first, then do regional crew get offered before shortlisters?
Do they take people off the shortlist in order of the amount of time you've been waiting, ie will someone who's been waiting 12 months+ get offered a position before someone who's been waiting 6 months? or is it just random? any info would be great
thanks again!
Do they take people off the shortlist in order of the amount of time you've been waiting, ie will someone who's been waiting 12 months+ get offered a position before someone who's been waiting 6 months? or is it just random? any info would be great
thanks again!
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I think it's quite random the way QF pick people.
I am still on the shortlist from the interview in Aug/Sep 2002.
However, some people who got through in Nov/Dec were sent to Perth before me.(when I was still waiting for the result to come through..)
is there anyone who went to the interview in Aug/Sep 2002 like I did??
Am I the only one by any chance?????
I am still on the shortlist from the interview in Aug/Sep 2002.
However, some people who got through in Nov/Dec were sent to Perth before me.(when I was still waiting for the result to come through..)
is there anyone who went to the interview in Aug/Sep 2002 like I did??
Am I the only one by any chance?????