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hya all
well more courses have been pen in for training in dec and this is for lgw only, however as i have posted on a previous section, ba has temps on lhr worldwide on 11 month contracts which alot are due to finish in a month or so. However meetings have now taken place between the head of crew and the chairperson of the largest union in ba and it seems that there may be a new agreement to come out in the next week or so were as the temp crew as they are already trained and to save money etc that these crew who are on temp contracts will be offered permanant contracts at lgw and will be put into a pool and will be cherrry picked ie the best of them offered jobs at lgw before any outsider what so ever is trained or offered a course date in the near future. by doing this they can then move the currentlgw crew who some have been there years ( dan air cityflyer and eog) a position at lhr which they have been crying out for for many years. also they have today announced that the atlanta and tolouse routes will now be transfered to lhr from march 09 taking the fleet down by 1 777 so less crew will be needed again.
so if this agreement does go through which seems valid and a good idea i guess that if the take up is good that there will still be less positions for someone who is not already flying as crew for ba as they are talking now of making lgw the only way into ba and work your way up from there.
ALSO THERE IS A MASSIVE WHISPER THAT LOOKS LIKE TO COME TRUE IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO THAT BA ARE TO ANNOUNCE THAT THERE GLASGOW BASE IS TO CLOSE , THEREFORE AGAIN IF THIS DOES HAPPEN BA NORMALLY OFFER CREW THE OPTION TO GO TO LHR WW AS PART OF THE BASE CLOSURE AGREEMENT AND AS WE ARE ALREADY OVER CREWED WITH UNPAID LEAVE BEING OFFERED UP TO FEB 09 IT SEEMS UNLIKELY THAT ANY NEW ENTRANTS WILL BE COMING SOON
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE I JUST HOPE IT ALL WORKS OUT FOR YOU
well more courses have been pen in for training in dec and this is for lgw only, however as i have posted on a previous section, ba has temps on lhr worldwide on 11 month contracts which alot are due to finish in a month or so. However meetings have now taken place between the head of crew and the chairperson of the largest union in ba and it seems that there may be a new agreement to come out in the next week or so were as the temp crew as they are already trained and to save money etc that these crew who are on temp contracts will be offered permanant contracts at lgw and will be put into a pool and will be cherrry picked ie the best of them offered jobs at lgw before any outsider what so ever is trained or offered a course date in the near future. by doing this they can then move the currentlgw crew who some have been there years ( dan air cityflyer and eog) a position at lhr which they have been crying out for for many years. also they have today announced that the atlanta and tolouse routes will now be transfered to lhr from march 09 taking the fleet down by 1 777 so less crew will be needed again.
so if this agreement does go through which seems valid and a good idea i guess that if the take up is good that there will still be less positions for someone who is not already flying as crew for ba as they are talking now of making lgw the only way into ba and work your way up from there.
ALSO THERE IS A MASSIVE WHISPER THAT LOOKS LIKE TO COME TRUE IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO THAT BA ARE TO ANNOUNCE THAT THERE GLASGOW BASE IS TO CLOSE , THEREFORE AGAIN IF THIS DOES HAPPEN BA NORMALLY OFFER CREW THE OPTION TO GO TO LHR WW AS PART OF THE BASE CLOSURE AGREEMENT AND AS WE ARE ALREADY OVER CREWED WITH UNPAID LEAVE BEING OFFERED UP TO FEB 09 IT SEEMS UNLIKELY THAT ANY NEW ENTRANTS WILL BE COMING SOON
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE I JUST HOPE IT ALL WORKS OUT FOR YOU
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Great post lgwflyboy - you are obviously somebody in the know and your information is greatly appreciated.
I am slightly confused however as it seems there are 4 courses in December mostly populated with the guys &girls who where part of the canx group back in September (....lot of ezy (ex GB!) people......)......
I am slightly confused however as it seems there are 4 courses in December mostly populated with the guys &girls who where part of the canx group back in September (....lot of ezy (ex GB!) people......)......
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hi laurdale
well we will find out this week or so i think with regards to lgw ad the courses etc, i guess knowing ba they will drop some courses if they have the temp crew going over to lgw but i guess it also depends on the take up as well from this group, and then i would say they would work out how many new crew they would need for lgw with regards to new entrants. also dont forget if the temp crew do take positions at lgw they are all classed as experianced in ba eyes as they have flown for over 6 months, therefore leting some of the crew who have been at lgw since god was a child who want to move to lhr to go ( subject to places being avalible at lhr) mind u lhr ww and ef are well voer crewed at the current ime with unpaid leaving being offered left right and centre now even up to feb 09 and they are also letting you take unpaid leave in a published roster so they must have lots of crew
good luck to the ex gb crew as i was gb myself and they are a fab bunch
lets hope it all works out for eveyone
xx
well we will find out this week or so i think with regards to lgw ad the courses etc, i guess knowing ba they will drop some courses if they have the temp crew going over to lgw but i guess it also depends on the take up as well from this group, and then i would say they would work out how many new crew they would need for lgw with regards to new entrants. also dont forget if the temp crew do take positions at lgw they are all classed as experianced in ba eyes as they have flown for over 6 months, therefore leting some of the crew who have been at lgw since god was a child who want to move to lhr to go ( subject to places being avalible at lhr) mind u lhr ww and ef are well voer crewed at the current ime with unpaid leaving being offered left right and centre now even up to feb 09 and they are also letting you take unpaid leave in a published roster so they must have lots of crew
good luck to the ex gb crew as i was gb myself and they are a fab bunch
lets hope it all works out for eveyone
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thanks for the update
I hope what you are saying is not true!I have been 'on hold' now for months and although I was contacted recently for references Im not holding my breath.Do you expect they will take in any of the temp ww lhr crew at all?
Any theories gratefully appreciated !
Any theories gratefully appreciated !
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Question to ask is: is there anyone else out there who was given a course in September - who were then consequently canx - and who has NOT been invited for the new December courses?
Complimentsmadam - were you given a September start date?
Complimentsmadam - were you given a September start date?
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I was suppose to have started the 15th september and have not been called yet!! I was certain I would have been in one of the two courses in december but Im not, I have no idea how they are choosing people 
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yes - exactly.....it even looks like there are people on the December courses who were not selected for the September courses.....strange....
Must be sooo frustrating!!
yes - exactly.....it even looks like there are people on the December courses who were not selected for the September courses.....strange....
Must be sooo frustrating!!
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I was on the September 8th course (the second course) before they cancelled it. Surely I should have been on the 29th December one then? 
I don't think they are offering training courses strictly in order of assessment:
"Many factors are considered when offering positions and where possible we do consider dates of assessment."
I don't think they are offering training courses strictly in order of assessment:
"Many factors are considered when offering positions and where possible we do consider dates of assessment."
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Yes - you are right, like experience on fleet type I guess.
However..........
You would have thoughts that the peeps who were on the cancelled courses from back in September would have been on the December courses - although in fairness there might be fewer places in December than there were in September......
Let's make sure we keep each other posted!
However..........
You would have thoughts that the peeps who were on the cancelled courses from back in September would have been on the December courses - although in fairness there might be fewer places in December than there were in September......
Let's make sure we keep each other posted!
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Well I had my interview bk in december 2007 and bcoz I have been at uni had to wait and was suppose to start on the september course. I was sure I would have been starting soon. I have read from this forum and another that some people that were scheduled for september are on a december course but also some people that were not and applied later than ourselves are on it too.
When I rang recruitment last friday I questioned why I wasnt on one of the courses due to start soon but the lady became quite abrupt with me and said it was the recruitment teams choice who was starting first and not necessary date order on the list of those in the holding pool. Also after 10mins on hold she refused to tell me where I was on the list...so I have no idea whats going on. Hopefully there will be courses in January for us! :-S
When I rang recruitment last friday I questioned why I wasnt on one of the courses due to start soon but the lady became quite abrupt with me and said it was the recruitment teams choice who was starting first and not necessary date order on the list of those in the holding pool. Also after 10mins on hold she refused to tell me where I was on the list...so I have no idea whats going on. Hopefully there will be courses in January for us! :-S
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LGW Course Rumours
I'd be very interested in finding out whats going on re: courses for LGW... Been waiting since April (not as long as some, but still very anxious to start!).
Was asked recently to provide my references again (why ask us before interview? or then ask for just an update...), so should I take this as a good sign?
I haven't called them as I am still waiting for my NI application to go through (2 out of possible 8 weeks down), but from what someone else said, it doesn't seem to be much use calling...
Was asked recently to provide my references again (why ask us before interview? or then ask for just an update...), so should I take this as a good sign?
I haven't called them as I am still waiting for my NI application to go through (2 out of possible 8 weeks down), but from what someone else said, it doesn't seem to be much use calling...
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I am waiting for a LGW course.
I had an email again today about my references so rang them to sort that out. I asked what number I was in the holding pool (26) but she said that number doesnt really matter bcoz management look at other factors and they choose who start first. Seems a little unfair but my only 'guess' is that those starting in december are ex-ground staff, ex-lhr and those who have some flying experience already. The lady seemed optimistic on the phone and said they are calling people at the moment for courses but only LGW so just hold on! Fingers crossed all!
I had an email again today about my references so rang them to sort that out. I asked what number I was in the holding pool (26) but she said that number doesnt really matter bcoz management look at other factors and they choose who start first. Seems a little unfair but my only 'guess' is that those starting in december are ex-ground staff, ex-lhr and those who have some flying experience already. The lady seemed optimistic on the phone and said they are calling people at the moment for courses but only LGW so just hold on! Fingers crossed all!
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update 2
hello all
just back from a trip and have some updated info. its now sems a forgone conculsion that ba are to now close there cabin crew base at glasgow, infact it was said ba had even booked a room at a local hotel to tell the crew of there fate thursday but the unions have got invloved inthis now and going by what has happen before with ground staff and other bases ie bhx, bfs etc. ba never were they can make staff redundant therefore all of the glasgow people will be offered prob like the other staff ( baggage handlers, company bus drivers, ground staff etc) long haul cabin crew positions, duno if its going to be for lgw or lhr ww but most get lhr ww.
also have spoken to a trianer today and it seems also that now the only way into ba is now going to be lgw single fleet ( a lot less pay than lhr and worse terms and conditions than lhr) and they seem to be filling positons with temp crew to as well for lgw as i have just flown with one and she was told it looks like they are all going to be offered lgw. so i guess if they are taking these guys into the base the people who have been canx off courses will have to wait, which is a shame however the staff who they will put there are all ready ba crew and take priority.
but i can understand some peoples frustration on here of wer ethey are going with ba and dates of joining etc
any way any more updates will adv
just back from a trip and have some updated info. its now sems a forgone conculsion that ba are to now close there cabin crew base at glasgow, infact it was said ba had even booked a room at a local hotel to tell the crew of there fate thursday but the unions have got invloved inthis now and going by what has happen before with ground staff and other bases ie bhx, bfs etc. ba never were they can make staff redundant therefore all of the glasgow people will be offered prob like the other staff ( baggage handlers, company bus drivers, ground staff etc) long haul cabin crew positions, duno if its going to be for lgw or lhr ww but most get lhr ww.
also have spoken to a trianer today and it seems also that now the only way into ba is now going to be lgw single fleet ( a lot less pay than lhr and worse terms and conditions than lhr) and they seem to be filling positons with temp crew to as well for lgw as i have just flown with one and she was told it looks like they are all going to be offered lgw. so i guess if they are taking these guys into the base the people who have been canx off courses will have to wait, which is a shame however the staff who they will put there are all ready ba crew and take priority.
but i can understand some peoples frustration on here of wer ethey are going with ba and dates of joining etc
any way any more updates will adv
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Employed @ Cranebank training I can only apologise to you all. Sadly at this moment in time the company has little control in what is happening in the industry. Our loads for the next few months are dropping on a daily basis and even flights showing a healthy load factor are returning little or no income. There may be a couple of courses but as some of you have stated the courses will be filled mainly by displaced BA staff as it is very likely that within the next 6 months there will be a number of staff without jobs. These BA staff still have to undergo a hard interview.
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Nah, it's quite clear that they are filling courses with people who are company redeploys or who have previous flying experience. It'll probably be quite a while before those of us in the holding pool who have never worked for an airline before get called.
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Thats a part negative reflexline - quite a nr of people from the holding pool are on the December courses or the Jan course, who - you are right there - have previous flying experience though.....