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Klimax 24th March 2021 16:54


Originally Posted by alanpartridge (Post 11014938)
I’d suggest it’s no less informative than the nonsense you’ve posted yourself. Suggesting the majority of the applications are from people without licences? Really?

I fail to see what you and a couple of others are offering to this thread. Your only experience of VistaJet appears to be failing the selection process, the others appear to have none at all other than having once spoken to some crew.

The downsides have been well noted on here. It’s really not complicated, if you can’t make those downsides work then don’t apply.

Anyone who goes in happy with those downsides should be very pleasantly surprised when they actually get online. Contrary to what some may think, most of us actually thoroughly enjoy our job and, as far as I can tell, morale is generally high! Get a good crew, a moderate workload and some nice destinations and it’s like going on vacation with your buddies. Personally I love it.

I suppose you should be given some slack for being a newbie in here, which shines through. You obviously have no clue what sort of applications HR receives when posting open positions. You may want to read posts a bit more thoroughly and try and understand them prior to quoting them - just a good habit in general. On a good note, great to hear that you're having a good time with VJ and enjoy the CoS, which I have to assume is as an F/O.

alanpartridge 24th March 2021 17:45


Originally Posted by Klimax (Post 11015550)
I suppose you should be given some slack for being a newbie in here, which shines through. You obviously have no clue what sort of applications HR receives when posting open positions. You may want to read posts a bit more thoroughly and try and understand them prior to quoting them - just a good habit in general. On a good note, great to hear that you're having a good time with VJ and enjoy the CoS, which I have to assume is as an F/O.

You’re weird.

For anyone applying to VJ, good luck! It’s by no means perfect but it’s a good company to work for and an enjoyable job. I’ll leave it at that.

TheFatViking 24th March 2021 19:04

Apparently some people have gotten bad news from
VJ but has anyone got any good ones tonight? Good luck all.

chief 24th March 2021 19:46

Do you happen to know how they received their bad news? Was it via the dashboard or did they receive an e-mail? My dashboard for the XL position just says "under review" and for the Global / Challenger "Received Submission".

TheFatViking 24th March 2021 19:59


Originally Posted by chief (Post 11015640)
Do you happen to know how they received their bad news? Was it via the dashboard or did they receive an e-mail? My dashboard for the XL position just says "under review" and for the Global / Challenger "Received Submission".

Got an email.

Klimax 24th March 2021 21:01


Originally Posted by alanpartridge (Post 11015567)
You’re weird.

For anyone applying to VJ, good luck! It’s by no means perfect but it’s a good company to work for and an enjoyable job. I’ll leave it at that.

I suppose that's what 25 years of flying does to you. You see a lot, hear a lot, learn a lot, forget a lot, and then you end up weird.

Cessnaflieshigher 26th March 2021 15:20

Application update
 
Just received an email in response to my application. Unfortunately, Vistajet will not be proceeding further with my application. Hopefully one day I get the opportunity to work for Vistajet.

Best wishes for everyone who have applied.

chief 26th March 2021 18:15


Originally Posted by Cessnaflieshigher (Post 11016873)
Just received an email in response to my application. Unfortunately, Vistajet will not be proceeding further with my application. Hopefully one day I get the opportunity to work for Vistajet.

Best wishes for everyone who have applied.

Sorry to hear your news. I'm sure there is something bigger and better out there for you...!!

I'm waiting for my PFO letter but as yet, no email....

Hoping for positive news 🤞

TheFatViking 26th March 2021 23:10


Originally Posted by chief (Post 11016943)
Sorry to hear your news. I'm sure there is something bigger and better out there for you...!!

I'm waiting for my PFO letter but as yet, no email....

Hoping for positive news 🤞

the same here! Wishing everybody good luck and hope the skies become the same as 2019 soon!

arrowcapitan 27th March 2021 06:16

i got pfo too ..

chief 28th March 2021 19:45

Again... sorry to the guys who have received a no. Over this year I have received countless "no's" subsequent to my applications - its extremely disheartening and I keep telling myself that there is something bigger and better around the corner even though the market is in such disarray.

Can I check, has anyone had any positive news from VJ following their recent application? My Dashboard still states "under review" on the XL and "Received Submission" for the Global and Challenger position. If so, what is the next stage and what do the stages consist of? I'm more than likely getting ahead of myself and I'll probably get a PFO email soon but hoping that this isn't the case!!

Feel free to message or DM.



TheFatViking 28th March 2021 19:47


Originally Posted by chief (Post 11018187)
Again... sorry to the guys who have received a no. Over this year I have received countless "no's" subsequent to my applications - its extremely disheartening and I keep telling myself that there is something bigger and better around the corner even though the market is in such disarray.

Can I check, has anyone had any positive news from VJ following their recent application? My Dashboard still states "under review" on the XL and "Received Submission" for the Global and Challenger position. If so, what is the next stage and what do the stages consist of? I'm more than likely getting ahead of myself and I'll probably get a PFO email soon but hoping that this isn't the case!!

Feel free to message or DM.

I am in the same situation and would appreciate a reply too. Cheers to everyone.

CocoJo 29th March 2021 07:01


Originally Posted by chief (Post 11018187)
Again... sorry to the guys who have received a no. Over this year I have received countless "no's" subsequent to my applications - its extremely disheartening and I keep telling myself that there is something bigger and better around the corner even though the market is in such disarray.

Can I check, has anyone had any positive news from VJ following their recent application? My Dashboard still states "under review" on the XL and "Received Submission" for the Global and Challenger position. If so, what is the next stage and what do the stages consist of? I'm more than likely getting ahead of myself and I'll probably get a PFO email soon but hoping that this isn't the case!!

Feel free to message or DM.

First post here on Pprune but been a spectator before for information.

Just letting you know that I am in the same situation.

XL - "Under Review"; Global & Challenger fleet "Received submission"

dcoded 29th March 2021 10:47


Originally Posted by chief (Post 11018187)
Again... sorry to the guys who have received a no. Over this year I have received countless "no's" subsequent to my applications - its extremely disheartening and I keep telling myself that there is something bigger and better around the corner even though the market is in such disarray.

Can I check, has anyone had any positive news from VJ following their recent application? My Dashboard still states "under review" on the XL and "Received Submission" for the Global and Challenger position. If so, what is the next stage and what do the stages consist of? I'm more than likely getting ahead of myself and I'll probably get a PFO email soon but hoping that this isn't the case!!

Feel free to message or DM.

No news yet, but a bunch of people have received the rejection email.
In some cases there have been 2-3 weeks in between "Under review" to the rejection email.
Rumour is that they have received 3000 applications, don't know if they are unique, or like in your case since you applied for both positions.
Also a few rated people have applied.

Previously they have done sim assessment in Berlin on the CRJ200 (which is the base model for the Challenger 850). Basic handling skills are evaluated. No FD on,
and btw CRJ does not have any auto throttle ;)

Good luck.


eiffel 30th March 2021 08:33

They require FCL055 English Level 6 which disqualifies a lot of candidates (even some native speakers with foreign licences I believe...)

dcoded 30th March 2021 08:56


Originally Posted by eiffel (Post 11019035)
They require FCL055 English Level 6 which disqualifies a lot of candidates (even some native speakers with foreign licences I believe...)

That was indeed a requirement.
But do people still really apply without meeting said requirements which were listed? I guess a few maybe did.
Btw, is English level 6 really that rare to have?

EatMyShorts! 30th March 2021 09:11


Originally Posted by dcoded (Post 11019054)
Btw, is English level 6 really that rare to have?

there are countries that do not have a lot or any examiners that are allowed to test people for LVL 6. Some countries even refuse giving out LVL 6 certificates to non-native speakers. It's a business, those recurring tests for LVL 4 and 5. Same as with airport security, big business.

dcoded 30th March 2021 09:33


Originally Posted by EatMyShorts! (Post 11019078)
there are countries that do not have a lot or any examiners that are allowed to test people for LVL 6. Some countries even refuse giving out LVL 6 certificates to non-native speakers. It's a business, those recurring tests for LVL 4 and 5. Same as with airport security, big business.

Thanks for the informative response!
Perhaps I am mistaken, but Germany is such a country which does not issue Level 6 to non-native speakers, correct?

McMax 30th March 2021 09:56


Originally Posted by dcoded (Post 11019096)
Thanks for the informative response!
Perhaps I am mistaken, but Germany is such a country which does not issue Level 6 to non-native speakers, correct?

Wasn‘t an issue in the past. Best to give one of the lvl 6 bots a call.

https://www.lba.de/SharedDocs/Downlo...ationFile&v=52

global2express 30th March 2021 18:15

No, it does, I got one there a decade ago and was able to keep it when I transferred my license to Austria.


Originally Posted by dcoded (Post 11019096)
Thanks for the informative response!
Perhaps I am mistaken, but Germany is such a country which does not issue Level 6 to non-native speakers, correct?


Klimax 30th March 2021 21:39


Originally Posted by dcoded (Post 11019054)
That was indeed a requirement.
But do people still really apply without meeting said requirements which were listed? I guess a few maybe did.
Btw, is English level 6 really that rare to have?

Do you truly believe that even half of the applicants actually looked at the specific requirements? These days desperate, as it's quite obvious from this thread as well, pilots apply for just about anything that gets them going, so I don't think any of the requirements are holding many back from applying. It's the same as thinking that pilots don't apply for positions that clearly states " type rated only ". So, yeah, there's actually a lot of pilots out there that don't actually hold level 6, and there's also a lot of us that probably shouldn't hold level 6.

Klimax 30th March 2021 21:46


Originally Posted by dcoded (Post 11019096)
Thanks for the informative response!
Perhaps I am mistaken, but Germany is such a country which does not issue Level 6 to non-native speakers, correct?

It would make a lot of sense if it was so..... :-)

Klimax 30th March 2021 21:48


Originally Posted by McMax (Post 11019107)
Wasn‘t an issue in the past. Best to give one of the lvl 6 bots a call.

https://www.lba.de/SharedDocs/Downlo...ationFile&v=52

Excellent link! Settles the scores.

Mercuzio77 4th April 2021 15:29

Hi There!
did anyone get a call from VJ for an interview?

Cheers!!

chief 6th April 2021 07:59

Mine still showing "under review"

No interview at this time just yet... Anyone else had any progress...?

This process is frustratingly slow but with 4000 applicants that they need to filter through, it's not surprising :ugh:

TheFatViking 6th April 2021 08:14


Originally Posted by chief (Post 11023183)
Mine still showing "under review"

No interview at this time just yet... Anyone else had any progress...?

This process is frustratingly slow but with 4000 applicants that they need to filter through, it's not surprising :ugh:

same here, no change - and just as you said it’ll take time.

CocoJo 6th April 2021 10:53


Originally Posted by chief (Post 11023183)
Mine still showing "under review"

No interview at this time just yet... Anyone else had any progress...?

This process is frustratingly slow but with 4000 applicants that they need to filter through, it's not surprising :ugh:

No updates here; "Under Review" on XLS, "Received Submission" on Global&Challenger.

levell 12th April 2021 09:52

Global/Challenger still Under Review. Anyone updates?

Mercuzio77 12th April 2021 10:44

Yep...still under review...to be honest, I think that people who were supposed to be called for an interview already got the call...and we don't know because they simply don't follow this forum..but this is just a personal opinion. As far as I know, they need ppl urgently.

Hard to believe that after a month and a half nobody has been contacted for a follow-up.

chief 12th April 2021 13:30

No Change! All gone very quiet!! Had considered calling them to find out if they are still actively recruiting but haven't heard anything back just yet and haven't taken the plunge....

I'm guessing no one else has heard anything?

TheFatViking 13th April 2021 10:29


Originally Posted by chief (Post 11026878)
No Change! All gone very quiet!! Had considered calling them to find out if they are still actively recruiting but haven't heard anything back just yet and haven't taken the plunge....

I'm guessing no one else has heard anything?

No change here either. Does anyone know about anyone who’s got an interview date?

Mercuzio77 21st April 2021 09:36

Does anyone have a friend who has been called for an interview?

Cheers

TheFatViking 21st April 2021 15:44

PFO for me too. Good luck to everyone else!

Mercuzio77 21st April 2021 15:52


Originally Posted by TheFatViking (Post 11031846)
PFO for me too. Good luck to everyone else!

I have sent you a PM

levell 26th April 2021 06:41

So PFO as well. GL to the rest of you ;-)

CocoJo 26th April 2021 14:41

PFO. Good luck to you all!

FL41 30th April 2021 08:48

Anyone got an interview? My application still shows Under Review on XLS and Received Submission on Global and Challenger. Good luck to everyone!

Mercuzio77 30th April 2021 10:34

I am in the same situation as yours...it would be nice to know if anyone got an interview

Turbine200 4th May 2021 09:45

I applied for both Citation and Global/Challenger positions. i was under review for the citation for a while (and still are) for the global it stated (application received) then on the 19th April i received the following...Thank you for your recent application.

We have reviewed your application and regret to inform you that we will not be progressing with your application on this occasion.

Please renew your interest in twelve months' time. To reapply next year, you can return to our candidate portal as an existing user.

Is this the same e-mail you have all received? as i believe their are two types being sent out.

When i now log into their website its states BOTH my applications are under review.... anyone had this? If they are under review why did i receive the above email....

Good luck to you all in these difficult times.

Mercuzio77 4th May 2021 16:03

well at least you got a reply..till today I havent received anything…. still showing under review on the portal…but I think that ppl who passed the cv selection have been contacted for the next stage


Originally Posted by Turbine200 (Post 11038467)
I applied for both Citation and Global/Challenger positions. i was under review for the citation for a while (and still are) for the global it stated (application received) then on the 19th April i received the following...Thank you for your recent application.

We have reviewed your application and regret to inform you that we will not be progressing with your application on this occasion.

Please renew your interest in twelve months' time. To reapply next year, you can return to our candidate portal as an existing user.

Is this the same e-mail you have all received? as i believe their are two types being sent out.

When i now log into their website its states BOTH my applications are under review.... anyone had this? If they are under review why did i receive the above email....

Good luck to you all in these difficult times.



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