CRJ 700/900 SIM in Berlin
Just pure RAW data SID from random german airport, RAW data ILS.
Your sim CPT/FO is from Vista, so no usual CRM is to be expected.
SIM slots during the night.

At least the candidates are shown what to expect - even before they´ve even join! That´s hilarious!

Short 15 min flight, 3 years ago I had sid out Hamburg, then vectors for an ndb approach. The others all got ils approach and then a goaround

Thank you all 🙂

Unfortunately, this is how it is at VJ now. The once youthful, upbeat crews we would see through the FBO are all tired and fed up now - we’ve all commented on it. It’s interesting to learn this is how they are treating their experienced fos ready for upgrade - standard practice at the legacy carriers, NJE etc but VJ is neither with their conditions and schedule. I am told they are losing good pilots at an alarming rate, with many more looking to jump ship when they can.

I’ve got a short phone interview later this month for DEC. Presumably to check my motivation etc. as mentioned in this thread.
I could only find F/o salary in this thread, could someone help me with the Captain salary/pension/Per diems etc. E.g. on the Global. Even better if a scandinavian resident could reply 😀
PPJN is gone unfortunately.

Thanks

Imagine what you think an FO should get paid at a decent company and you will be close to what a captain gets paid at vistajet! :D

With bonus , if you get it, you will be expecting to make maximum €90k on the smaller fleets and €100k on the Global. My ex colleague who is there says just over €100k sounds about right for someone with a few years in the company. Per diems are around €40 a day average , which seems incredibly low.

you would need to be desperat to accept that as an experienced captain.

Commander: €94000pa plus per diems which are variable, plan for €30-40 per day, tax-free. Some countries have fixed pd at €40 so please check for Scandinavia.
You also get “extra day bonuses” paid each quarter & at the end of year. Expect another 5-10k maximum in these payments.
Most likely salary is reduced for the first 6 months as I believe to 80% during your probation period. Latest news is a 5% pay increase, paid as a supplement each month for all vaccinated crew who maintain their covid-19 vaccination status and 5% on top of yearly appraisal bonuses. Must have worked over 204 days to qualify, I.e. don’t catch covid.
Roster 17/13 fixed. Vacation built into your off days. Required to pick an addition two extra “standby days” for travelling one day early at the start of your nominated months also. All training in off days. Sim mostly UK now - expect 2200L earliest slot times if you are a lucky crew.

Great crews (some unfortunately yes now are leaving), sometimes a cocktail in the Caribbean, sometimes China (HK!!) covid jail. Every trip is different; it’s what makes it. You will fly a modern business jet all over the globe with often fantastic people. What VistaJet sell is what you get, no grey areas and that is made clear from the very beginning. It is what you make it at the end of the day. We work hard but play hard too. (OK for the Global we sleep first then we play hard!)

Best of luck.

Hi All, does VistaJet have any ethnic minority flight deck crew?

Thanks for replies above guys.

Besides the pay, the 17 days away is probably not doable for me anyway.

The problem is not VJ paying low salaries. The problem is all south European countries not asking for any tax for the VJ employees. The gross salary numbers you see here is also what you can expect to see in your pocket at the end of the month deducted for some small social fees. But overall they are minimal. So a take home salary for a captain in the region of 8000 EUR/month is not that bad is it? As long as you live in Italy, Spain, Austria, Slovenia, Greece or any other country where the state doesn't want your tax money. Less fun for the colleagues in north Europe. If everyone paid tax like in the UK and Germany the salaries would be higher in VJ but as they can employ endless of people from south Europe who are happy with the salary why would they increase them? You live a very good life in Spain with 8000 EUR in your pockets every month.

So for most people the problem in VJ is not the salary. The problem is that you work too much. No holidays. Sim and CRM on your off days etc.

I would agree with the above, although regardless of residential country, the salary is still below industry standard, especially, as you say on a 17/13 roster, no leave & training during off days etc. VistaJet don’t want pilots who prioritise working conditions and salary, they never have. They want pilots who are happy to accept these conditions in return to fly a modern biz jet for 17 days around the globe, three times.

BS argument, and this does not in any shape or form change the VistaJet substandard Captain remuneration for the BD700 class segment. The taxation on remuneration earned at a other companies paying the average Captain pay of 140+K Euro/year would be under the same conditions as you describe, though the "take home" following your argument would be 12000 EUR/month, which is more or less standard on the G650/BD700 etc. segment. So, no, VJ is in this regard NOT attractive, and likely also why pilots are leaving when they can, and DEC only joining for the type rating, experience and the leave at opportunity. That´s just how the game is played.

I still tend to agree with their comment - 8000 EUR/month isn’t “bad” remuneration but still below industry standards. You just have to look at the average age and experience of a VJ pilot. Does age and experience make them bad pilots? No. It is a step into business aviation and exposure to flying unheard of in any other company. But, is VJ a career company that will hold these pilots? No. Get in, get the experience and get out.

There are already whispers of several pilots leaving in the next few months, good and experienced pilots. By all accounts, mainly Brits (high social security?¿!) and I suspect many more to go when they can in place of fresh, new crew happy to accept our conditions. For now, it works for me but only just. Am I looking elsewhere? Yes. We are working more than ever with little back from the company. The days of downtime and experience at destination are rapidly diminishing… the side that made it bearable. Sleep and food are now priority. If you have a family and value off time, this is not the place for you. If you want experience flying a modern business jet across the globe from international hubs to small private strips in the outback, hit that submit application button. What the VJ management sell you is what you get, it’s black and white with no bull!!!!! promises.

I think everyone can agree that the salary is very low but the point is that many people receive money as if the salary was double (due to tax loop holes). Because of that there is no pressure on VJ to increase the salaries and as most people these days are employed in south Europe very few people have money as a problem. People join VJ as there is no other or very few other jobs around. When I worked for VJ several ex owner pilots joined and said the European owners market is not very good. But that was many years ago now but don't think it has changed that much.

I don't think you get the point. I've seen a lot of posts from you on this forum and all you do is to spit out negativity in every aspect. A hint, read up on the facts before you post next time. To start with you can read up on the taxation agreement between Austria and Malta. That would explain why you can't earn your 140K/year and still take home 12000 EUR/month with your usual management company employer (unless it's a Maltese) .

I think the point he’s making is that you can earn €140k elsewhere and STILL find a favourable tax system or agreement. For instance , there are ways of putting large amounts of that €140k into pensions without paying tax. Its not that difficult to be tax efficient.

VistaJet don’t pay enough , that’s very clear , but they don’t really hide that fact.

You sound a bit inexperienced mate. Don´t be target fascinated with the country of employment.

The money in isolation isn't really a big problem, the whole package doesn't really line up with how little they're paying. Plenty of people are happy to do it though (for a while). Taxation issues are irrelevant, either the net pay is enough or it's not - no one is forcing you to take the job.

Through a bit of FR24 stalking, looks like 10-15% of VJs flights start or end in Russia. Thats gonna hurt for the foreseeable?

There´s likely to be somewhat less sushi leftovers for the crew though.. ;-)

Then you were one of the lucky guys! I was in almost exactly the same situation, but 3 years into my Job Share, 128 pilots of us got a choice: accept the "voluntary leave" or leave the company the hard way: only a (legal) 6 weeks notice period and associated pay. You can only imagine, how many of those 128 choose for the first option... Job share and Job Protection promesse?? NO WAY!!!

VJ also just bought Air Hamburg who are heavily invested in the Russian market. Unfortunate timing.

Any news on the ongoing recruitment?

Recruitment continually ongoing. Losing our experienced Commanders, FO’s and Cabin Hostesses looking for better working conditions.
Pre- to post-pandemic, Vista is a completely different company now, unfortunately.

What has changed since then?

Not the pay! thats for sure. (Same as about 2007:)

Our conditions improved quite a bit at NetJets (especially for the more recent hires).

My tax return for 2021-22 was £138k gross for around 350 block hours and 207 duty days in the RHS of the Phenom having been in the company for 3.5 years.

and yet a RHS guy at VJ is on €45-48k with the chance of a few thousand extra if they’re a good boy or girl and get their bonus. that level of pay doesn’t exactly attract top quality applicants (and it shows!)!

wow 🤯

That’s insane

Insuppose you join VJ with an aim of getting your command in 3 years. so 3 years of very low salary is the price you pay. but then you have a captains salary which is still significantky (and I mean SIGNIFICANTLY) less than your FO salary at NJ. There is no getting away from the fact that the VJ salary is shockingly poor especially when you consider you will be doing 7-800 block hours per year.

But you get a very nice jet and great colleagues! You guys and your stupid money. Spot the irony.

Seriously: possibly, quite a few of those FOs come from a poorer background (in terms of working conditions) and might be okay with this low salary for a while.

Hello everybody,

Was wondering if anybody passed selection lately?

Grts

Application Status
 

Hi does anybody know what it means if my application status is showing as hidden for Cabin Hostess, it was last updated on the 24/11/22? I applied on the 10/10/22 and the application status was showing received submission.

Thank you

Hi All,

Would someone be able to share insight on the 1 day selection process please....? Its been a long time since I have sat in an interview....!

Thanks


PP

Why are they refusing applications from French licence holders?

because they are always on strike.
No I'm joking ahah sorry.

I believe it's because the ratings on a french license is too complicated to renew for a non DGAC examiner

Good afternoon to all!
I've just contacted via email to have an phone interview this Thursday, what kind of questions do they ask?
thanks in advance

Hi everyone.

I also have a phone call interview, if anyone can provide some info on the content of their questions, I appreciate. Thanks ! Cheers.

I was interviewed during the last mass hiring in spring 2021.

My phone interview with Mr. Van der Meer looked something like this:

1. tell me smthg about youself
2. strengths and weaknesses
3. short check about my knowledge of VJT and XOJet business model
4. why do I want to work for VJT
5. his short presentation of the company
6. my own questions

Honest I don't know, if this layout is still being used. From my point of view Vista is not aiming to hire so much new pilots as back in 2021.