tomuchwork - great, detailed post that really adds to the thread.

I think it says quite a lot when the "pros" are generally what I would take as a given for any operation - but that might just be me!

I have an assessment with VistaJet coming up soon and would appreciate any information on what to expect (interview, tech quizz, simride).

Can I ask how many hours a typical Global captain would fly every month?

It did vary and would be impossible to say on monthly basis. In the old days you used to fly a comfortable 350-450 hours per year. These days it's more 500-600 per year, more close to 600 I've heard and if the management reach what they want it will increase even further. Duties were typical very long with pick up around 2 hours before the flight and 1 hr post flight duties plus transport. Add the time zone changes on top of that. Not a holiday.

Well, they are not getting better. Nice ladies when I started with them, many many years ago. It became worse over the time till I left. So no luck there either. Fully agree on flight times, minimum rest (on Global which is the worst, but as well other fleets). Not sure why someone with a Global rating would really go there(however I have friends which left as well and for some strange reason see the company in a better light - I always assume there must be something in their water to keep them happy ^^).

So or so - very careful consideration is required if thinking about joining. If you have no job it is obvious, go for it. But IF you have a job careful considerations must be applied. Do not go for the shiny office, chicks in high heels running around in Malta during training days or the shiny, but sometimes stinky silver jets. There is a very dark side behind all the silver lining. Enough said.

Look at is as a stepping stone, if leaving an airline job, entering the corporate world. Get the type rating and corporate experience and some hours on type, and then leave when something better comes up. Just like in the airline world far from all of the business jet companies look at their employees as an asset, so no reason why you as that employee should treat them any differently. I left the airline world more than a decade ago and can´t see myself ever going back.

FO Salary Global 48000 EUR / Year. But you start with 45000 EUR / year until 6 months after you have passed your final line check = Office week + Type Rating + Base Training + Line training (depending on how lucky and good you are expect around 2-4 months) + Final Line check + 6 months @ 45 000 EUR. So in reality around a year before you will see the "big money"....

Upgrade was strictly seniority based for FOs. The trick is to not join as a First Officer at all. Join as a DEC if it becomes available again. Joining the Global fleet now will lock you in the FO seat for at least 5 years. VJ has an order of Global 7500 that might arrive next year but even if they forced all FOs over to the 7500 you would not reach a command position before the expansion finish. After the 7500 deliveries it won't be any more expansion, at least what is known for now. It means FOs will never reach a command position unless people leave, and historically it has been mainly FOs leaving so the waiting time would be long. Probably quicker command at Netjets at the moment....
Experience..... I think you needed 4500 hours total time to be considered for command.

Why would you leave a major airlines as a captain for Vistajet as a First Officer?

I see VJ is hiring on all fleets again which leads one to assume they have lost a few pilots recently as well as some possible expansion going on. Something will have to give there as they will lose to many pilots I suspect which is not sustainable long term.

They dont even pay well, have rubbish 17 on 13 off schedules which is terrible for family life, have bullying management so there does not seem to be much incentive to go there.

Guess the morning coffee wasn't strong enough. Aircraft overshot runway this morning in EGGP

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-50740693


https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/231312

Defo Vistajet. Both ATC callsign and paint scheme on photos, points to a Vistajet incident.

Good day guys, does anyone know of any operators looking for CL604 Type rated FO’s. Please let me know, I’m interested

cheers

Any updates on the Vistajet Liverpool incident with the aircraft of the runway. Is there a preliminary report out yet? thank you.

They are probably trying to cover it up...

Rumors are the steering failed on landing.

Has their scheduling changed by the way or do they still do 17 on and 13 off? I believe you also commute on your off days, is that correct?

Negative .. you commute on day 1 and 17..... cheers

You do everything on your days OFF: several training events per year, commuting, Visa etc..

Thanks for the clarification. At least your travel days count as duty! And you have to go to your company propaganda party, quite amusing.

So 33% of your blocks of days off are spoilt by company duties. Not ideal for sure.

One of the main drawbacks with VistaJet is their low substandard pay. It´s probably a good stepping stone with a solid ops, but the salary is just a joke.

The only happy campers are the Austrian pilots from what I hear, and that’s because they pay no taxes on their maltese income, but to be fair in my experience they have never set the bar very high in terms of salary expectations...

I’ll take the party in Malta any day, come to think of it

I presume you mean they are based in Malta and actually living out there.

Not necessarily, there may be a agreement between Austria and Malta and no further tax needs to be paid in Austria. Maybe someone can shed some light on this.

Living in Austria, working for a Maltese based company, you still need to pay the taxes and social security in Malta (which is something like 700-800€ a month for an FO). The agreement between Austria and Malta states only that no extra taxes need to be paid to the Austrian state.The taxes in Austria are considerably higher and the difference does not need to be paid as is the case with France for example.

If you want to see drunk captains (married with kids) drooling on ten years younger flight attendants, you are very welcome. If adultery is not your style, I recommend avoiding the evening event.
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You don't have to go to the party for that, this is what the 17 days on are for :8

Malta does not charge income taxes on non resident pilots, and as you pointed put, in this particular situation, neither do the Austrian authority. That explains my happy camper comment above.

EU vs non-EU ?

As far as I know, this comes down only to bilateral agreements between countries.

I also live in Germany and work in another European country and even enjoy the perks of an expat contract that makes me pay less taxes in the country where I work and nothing is due to Germany.
Look at regulations concerning EU cross border workers in the EU.

Out of curiosity, how's things going in Vista and in the business jet side of aviation with this virus? Noticed a significant reduction in flights or the wealthy ones keep flying as normal?

I was told last week while flying to Europe from Canada that flying would increase because of the virus situation. Now more people would have access to the aircrafts instead of taking the airlines.

However by the end of the week when Trump closed the USA's borders and with others to follow, the boss said that this was changing everything and that the flying would drop.

Hi guys!

any rumors about vistajet recommencing recruitment for pilots soon?

Hi guys, does Vistajet have any N registered aircraft in their fleet ?

Hi Pilotkid,

I`am not sure about today, but till the end of 2019 they had at least 7 N-registered Globals 6000 + 1 Agusta 109 helicopter.

FAA database shows 8 VistaJet CL350s and 6 Global 5000s, all operated by Xojet, Inc which they acquired in 2018.

Thank you For that info.