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Old 26th Aug 2023, 17:37
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Originally Posted by Vulka
The point is not which is the worse between Ryan or VJ or whatever Airline in Europe, the point is, in my opinion, try all to recover dignity for these job while the multimilionarie entrepreneurs play the game$$$

I don’t know your profile and Is not my intention to criticise your choices, far from me, I m talking in general.
Is absolutely acceptable from low hours or cadet accept any conditions and Blackmail for start(with union’s complaisance) but not from experienced people and more what the European Union is doing, if we have one?

good luck Camel and all the best sincerely.
Thank you sir, no hard feelings from me, we are all in the same business and I wish everyone success.

What’s truly great for me is we can live in our lovely home, the kids are happy at school. There are no jobs at my local airport, the loco job was a bit of a drive and I’m not going back to that. I would get called on days off, last minute shift changes and low salary - I left for better T&C’s and I got it. We can’t all be “at the top of the food chain”.

So if I dug my heels in and insisted on “even better terms” I would have to up root the family to near a major city. That would not be great for the family.

I personally feel I’m on a great gig. I really enjoy it. I’m happy and my family are happy.
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Old 26th Aug 2023, 20:27
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Originally Posted by binzer
really!,,,,,, how about expanding a bit more on that.
There is a whole thread on NetJets with our T&Cs etc
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Old 8th Sep 2023, 10:55
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I signed up here to post my opinion regarding the Air Hamburg takeover. Here Vista completely destroyed a really cool flight operation with a good atmosphere. A reporting culture is being introduced more and more, fleet chiefs are putting a lot of pressure on pilots and functioning systems are being abolished for no reason. We don't have 17/13 yet. But everyone is sure that it will come. And those who can and are lucky look for a new job. There must have been 30 people quitting already.
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 13:50
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Hey!

Has anyone recently had an interview at VistaJet to work for Air Hamburg? If so, what kind of roster was offered?

Cheers!
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Old 30th Sep 2023, 14:19
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Originally Posted by highfly84
I signed up here to post my opinion regarding the Air Hamburg takeover. Here Vista completely destroyed a really cool flight operation with a good atmosphere. A reporting culture is being introduced more and more, fleet chiefs are putting a lot of pressure on pilots and functioning systems are being abolished for no reason. We don't have 17/13 yet. But everyone is sure that it will come. And those who can and are lucky look for a new job. There must have been 30 people quitting already.
Wow. What a successful take over! Where did pilots go?
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Old 1st Oct 2023, 15:20
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Originally Posted by Klimax
Wow. What a successful take over! Where did pilots go?
The one I know went to a freight airline.
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Old 2nd Oct 2023, 13:55
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Ran into some pax the other day waiting 8 hours in the FBO for a recovery plane due to AOG. They said this was the 4th consecutive time they had a VJ or AH jet go AOG and leave them stranded with no recovery plan.
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Old 3rd Oct 2023, 05:50
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Meanwhile at Flexjet

https://www.marketscreener.com/quote...inum-44965725/
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Old 9th Oct 2023, 11:23
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Originally Posted by camel toe
Interesting that you don’t give a “rats ass” what a full time employee thinks.

I am a full time employee and the job is fine. For me personally I actually enjoy it. Yes we train during the 13 off days but it’s all explained prior to signing the contract.
No mate you misunderstood my post.
I was responding to ATOguy, who said that we as pilots who are away a lot in general shouldn’t complain since we work far less than a generic full time person.
My response was that I disgree with that reasoning.
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Old 17th Oct 2023, 08:24
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Vistajet has an interesting way to apply FTL.....
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Old 11th Nov 2023, 19:17
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Originally Posted by busybee11
Vistajet has an interesting way to apply FTL.....
could you elaborate more?
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Old 12th Nov 2023, 06:55
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In case you wonder what Vista US pilots are pulling in.

CPT:

https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/16926.html

F/O:

https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/18254.html

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Old 14th Nov 2023, 20:14
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Originally Posted by wondering
Thar may look good to EU based pilots, but the truth is that it is still well below the going rate in the US and they are now trying to lure over Oztronauts just to keep their planes flying.
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Old 15th Nov 2023, 09:23
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I’m an Oztronaut. How do I get some more info about their “luring”???
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Old 15th Nov 2023, 13:02
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Originally Posted by josephfeatherweight
I’m an Oztronaut. How do I get some more info about their “luring”???
If you are willing to sell your soul, have at it.


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Old 15th Nov 2023, 13:11
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Hey
is the pay scale on pilot jobs network correct? Is it includes the different type of bonus?
on ppjn is not very clear .
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Old 15th Nov 2023, 16:12
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Rather try one of the US airlines, they will treat you better and pay more.
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Old 15th Nov 2023, 18:36
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Originally Posted by EatMyShorts!
Rather try one of the US airlines, they will treat you better and pay more.
No doubt, hence my comment about it being below the going rate in the US. However, no majors are offering Ozzies (or anyone else) assistance getting the E3 visa, at least not yet. My feeling is that Vista will lose these pilots as soon as they can move on to greener pastures, but that may even be part of the plan as long as it keeps the turbines spinning with enough pilots in their seats.
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Old 15th Nov 2023, 19:22
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Originally Posted by FlyTCI
No doubt, hence my comment about it being below the going rate in the US. However, no majors are offering Ozzies (or anyone else) assistance getting the E3 visa, at least not yet. My feeling is that Vista will lose these pilots as soon as they can move on to greener pastures, but that may even be part of the plan as long as it keeps the turbines spinning with enough pilots in their seats.
Yes, this may work for a charter outfit, such a HastaLaVistaJet, but not the likes of NetJets US which seems to be loosing a lot of experienced pilots, being replaced with new faces and less experienced pilots (lower entry requirements than the past!).
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Old 15th Nov 2023, 20:25
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Originally Posted by FlyTCI
No doubt, hence my comment about it being below the going rate in the US. However, no majors are offering Ozzies (or anyone else) assistance getting the E3 visa, at least not yet. My feeling is that Vista will lose these pilots as soon as they can move on to greener pastures, but that may even be part of the plan as long as it keeps the turbines spinning with enough pilots in their seats.
Yes, correct. From what I understood, Aussies are able to join US regional carriers. This might be a more viable stepping stone to the US majors.
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