Lets fly for Vistajet?
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The point is not which is the worse between Ryan or VJ or whatever Airline in Europe, the point is, in my opinion, try all to recover dignity for these job while the multimilionarie entrepreneurs play the game$$$
I don’t know your profile and Is not my intention to criticise your choices, far from me, I m talking in general.
Is absolutely acceptable from low hours or cadet accept any conditions and Blackmail for start(with union’s complaisance) but not from experienced people and more what the European Union is doing, if we have one?
good luck Camel and all the best sincerely.
I don’t know your profile and Is not my intention to criticise your choices, far from me, I m talking in general.
Is absolutely acceptable from low hours or cadet accept any conditions and Blackmail for start(with union’s complaisance) but not from experienced people and more what the European Union is doing, if we have one?
good luck Camel and all the best sincerely.
What’s truly great for me is we can live in our lovely home, the kids are happy at school. There are no jobs at my local airport, the loco job was a bit of a drive and I’m not going back to that. I would get called on days off, last minute shift changes and low salary - I left for better T&C’s and I got it. We can’t all be “at the top of the food chain”.
So if I dug my heels in and insisted on “even better terms” I would have to up root the family to near a major city. That would not be great for the family.
I personally feel I’m on a great gig. I really enjoy it. I’m happy and my family are happy.

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I signed up here to post my opinion regarding the Air Hamburg takeover. Here Vista completely destroyed a really cool flight operation with a good atmosphere. A reporting culture is being introduced more and more, fleet chiefs are putting a lot of pressure on pilots and functioning systems are being abolished for no reason. We don't have 17/13 yet. But everyone is sure that it will come. And those who can and are lucky look for a new job. There must have been 30 people quitting already.
I signed up here to post my opinion regarding the Air Hamburg takeover. Here Vista completely destroyed a really cool flight operation with a good atmosphere. A reporting culture is being introduced more and more, fleet chiefs are putting a lot of pressure on pilots and functioning systems are being abolished for no reason. We don't have 17/13 yet. But everyone is sure that it will come. And those who can and are lucky look for a new job. There must have been 30 people quitting already.
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Ran into some pax the other day waiting 8 hours in the FBO for a recovery plane due to AOG. They said this was the 4th consecutive time they had a VJ or AH jet go AOG and leave them stranded with no recovery plan.
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I was responding to ATOguy, who said that we as pilots who are away a lot in general shouldn’t complain since we work far less than a generic full time person.
My response was that I disgree with that reasoning.
In case you wonder what Vista US pilots are pulling in.
CPT:
https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/16926.html
F/O:
https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/18254.html
CPT:
https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/16926.html
F/O:
https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/18254.html
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In case you wonder what Vista US pilots are pulling in.
CPT:
https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/16926.html
F/O:
https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/18254.html
CPT:
https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/16926.html
F/O:
https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/18254.html
I’m an Oztronaut. How do I get some more info about their “luring”???
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No doubt, hence my comment about it being below the going rate in the US. However, no majors are offering Ozzies (or anyone else) assistance getting the E3 visa, at least not yet. My feeling is that Vista will lose these pilots as soon as they can move on to greener pastures, but that may even be part of the plan as long as it keeps the turbines spinning with enough pilots in their seats.
No doubt, hence my comment about it being below the going rate in the US. However, no majors are offering Ozzies (or anyone else) assistance getting the E3 visa, at least not yet. My feeling is that Vista will lose these pilots as soon as they can move on to greener pastures, but that may even be part of the plan as long as it keeps the turbines spinning with enough pilots in their seats.
No doubt, hence my comment about it being below the going rate in the US. However, no majors are offering Ozzies (or anyone else) assistance getting the E3 visa, at least not yet. My feeling is that Vista will lose these pilots as soon as they can move on to greener pastures, but that may even be part of the plan as long as it keeps the turbines spinning with enough pilots in their seats.