Greenville,SC Falcon 50 crash
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Originally Posted by pilotbear
Seems to be about 40kts too fast to me ON the runway. And regarding 91/135? If you knew the truth about what goes on in these organisations you would live in a bunker undergound. There are NOT enough FAA inspectors or FISDO to cope. Each inspector has many, many organisations to oversee and favors are rife to decrease the workload...Sorry, but it is completely true so don't come back with your whinging.
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Follow up.
Anti skid placarded INOP. Fire handles pulled, but engines ran for a long time.
NTSB https://media.wspa.com/nxs-wspatv-me...969_ver1.0.pdf
https://www.greenvilleonline.com/sto...rt/1536494002/
https://www.wyff4.com/article/ntsb-r...crash/23622677
Anti skid placarded INOP. Fire handles pulled, but engines ran for a long time.
NTSB https://media.wspa.com/nxs-wspatv-me...969_ver1.0.pdf
https://www.greenvilleonline.com/sto...rt/1536494002/
https://www.wyff4.com/article/ntsb-r...crash/23622677
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Very strange that if the fire handles for #2 and #3 engines were pulled that those engines apparently ran at full power for 20 minutes after the crash and #1 ran for 40 minutes!?
Perhaps the fire/rescue team pulled the two fire handles?
Also I would think that planing a flight into a rather small airport with a not so long runway with an inoperative anti skid system was perhaps not a wise idea.
Perhaps the fire/rescue team pulled the two fire handles?
Also I would think that planing a flight into a rather small airport with a not so long runway with an inoperative anti skid system was perhaps not a wise idea.
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Is it true or not that after you pull fire handles you must turn them and hold for several seconds? And would non-pilot rescue people know this?
And would a cockpit separated from body, the controls still function?
And would a cockpit separated from body, the controls still function?
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Originally Posted by jack11111
Is it true or not that after you pull fire handles you must turn them and hold for several seconds? And would non-pilot rescue people know this?
And would a cockpit separated from body, the controls still function?
And would a cockpit separated from body, the controls still function?
If you then proceed to turn the fire handle the fire extinguishing agent is then released in that engine.
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Fire handles pulled, but engines ran for a long time.
And regarding 91/135? If you knew the truth about what goes on in these organisations you would live in a bunker undergound.
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Falcon 50 only requires a pull of the fire handles,(fuel shut off), no turning, separate switch to fire the bottles. If you shut down the engines via the fire bottles, not the fuel shut off levers on the power levers, it takes 20-30 seconds for the engines to deplete the fuel lines and shut down normally.
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You’d think a car would give better protection in a crash than an aircraft, but not always. In New York State today a stretched limousine ran an intersection at high speed, went over an embankment, and crashed into a restaurant parking lot. Two pedestrians in the lot were killed, and all eighteen (that’s right, eighteen) passengers in the limo are dead. My guess is that the brakes worked but the driver didn’t.https://www.houstonchronicle.com/new...h-13288015.php
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Originally Posted by B2N2
.Anybody pursuing criminal charges against the owner/operator ?
Absolutely incredible. Paying passengers transported on an aircraft with over 100 known malfunctions, including the brakes. Flown by a crew composed of a "captain" with an SIC typerating only and a co-pilot with a PPL and no instrument rating. One could immediately ask: How is that possible in a country like the United States? But then the accident of D-CMMM in Denmark (https://reports.aviation-safety.net/...J24_D-CMMM.pdf) comes to mind where a Learjet crashed in Denmark. So it shows again that all rules and regulations are only as good as the people who supervise them.
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The question rather is how often non-qualified crew operate commercial aircraft that are technically unfit to fly, but nothing happens and nobody investigates. I'd guess that there is a huge number of such flights being operated and those operators who stick to the rules are being checked all the time...
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I'd guess that there is a huge number of such flights being operated and those operators who stick to the rules are being checked all the time...
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His Dudeness,
Europe is different! I have had many SAFA checks over the years since the system was introduced. But in the rest of the world it is very rare. I have never been ramp checked in the US; indeed the only place outside Europe I have been ramp checked was Port Harcourt, Nigeria. And he was looking for a very specific piece of paper!
Europe is different! I have had many SAFA checks over the years since the system was introduced. But in the rest of the world it is very rare. I have never been ramp checked in the US; indeed the only place outside Europe I have been ramp checked was Port Harcourt, Nigeria. And he was looking for a very specific piece of paper!
Originally Posted by BizJetJock
His Dudeness,
Europe is different! I have had many SAFA checks over the years since the system was introduced. But in the rest of the world it is very rare. I have never been ramp checked in the US; indeed the only place outside Europe I have been ramp checked was Port Harcourt, Nigeria. And he was looking for a very specific piece of paper!
Europe is different! I have had many SAFA checks over the years since the system was introduced. But in the rest of the world it is very rare. I have never been ramp checked in the US; indeed the only place outside Europe I have been ramp checked was Port Harcourt, Nigeria. And he was looking for a very specific piece of paper!
Did it happen to be green?
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Europe is different!
Never been ramp checked in Africa either and flew only a few flights to/from the states...
