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Old 26th Apr 2018, 11:35
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Netjets (USA) did not fire a lot of people, they got furloughed and all have been called back in recent years.

You cannot compare Flexjet Europe with Netjets Europe. Are they even operating?

Cheers from a 14+ year employee at NJE. I am so scared, the job is so insecure.
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 11:56
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@DAN, if you think Frax are insecure try GA operators..
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 14:33
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NJE ran some form of sponsorship scheme about ten years ago and I know that many of the cadets were not taken on at the time in flying roles. I had a discussion with NJE HR that until even recently not all had been absorbed and I'm curious if I missed something in translation, meaning that either some had gone elsewhere or that there were still cadet's waiting for placements?
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 15:32
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I was there in 2009 when the doodah hit the fan. Although it was a difficult time, the company did treat us all well, there were many options open to leave/stay etc. Many of us left and I can't comment on conditions now but I can at least say we were treated very fairly by NJE and BH. Nobody was given an ultimatum (besides some management I'm sure!)

I enjoyed my time there but aviation is a cruel mistress....
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 16:35
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"Nobody was given an ultimatum"??? Apart from over 100 crew made "voluntarily" redundant - many despite having taken significant pay cuts to help out, I guess you're right.....
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 16:47
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OTA - not in 2009, I think things changed in 2012 ish though which I think is what you're referring to?
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 17:03
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Not an ultimatum ? Seniority list top to bottom: you leave with this amount or you leave with this amount.. sign below before that date ...
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 22:30
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Still better than "no amount"...

The Netjets cadet scheme produced a number of ab-initio pilots. Due to the economic situation and some f****ups only a few made it into Netjets and are still with us. The others were later offered a full lump sum to help them pay off a big part of their training mortgage/debt, in return for leaving the Netjets contract. I know one of them, he's now a captain on a very nice business jet in his hometown, hopefully still with very nice contractual conditions etc.
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 08:17
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Well, when you have no choice but to leave anyway from the top of the seniority list, you take whatever you are given. you quote people whom found a job, there was a lot whom did not..
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 09:06
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P, I am fully aware that the actions of 2012 were a disgrace, but these times are behind us, we are signing our new CBA today.

Your should have been invited for the last round of hiring a few weeks ago, haven't you applied?
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 09:18
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Let me get this straight. Had the skids put under you in'12, supposed to hang around or drop what you are doing now and reapply? How delusional.
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 10:10
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Well I did reapply, but since they subcontracted this to a third party, i am not sure about the criteria of choice. These are the communications :

This from the ivory tower:

Dear Candidate,

We acknowledge your application for the First Officer position at NetJets Europe and sincerely appreciate your interest in our company.
We are now starting the selection process. We have engaged a third party, KURA Aviation, to support us throughout this process. You will be given feedback on your application by KURA within the next month.
If you have any concerns or questions please let us know. If you object to us sharing your data with KURA Aviation or to KURA Aviation being involved in the process, please let us know by 23.59h Lisbon time on Wednesday 28 March 2018. Otherwise we will assume that you do not object to your details being shared with KURA Aviation and we will share your details with them.
Best wishes for success!

Kind regards,

Answer form the contractor:

Thank you for your interest in the role of First Officer with Netjets.
The response to the opportunity has been overwhelming and the standard of all the applications received extremely high.
Having now had an opportunity to carefully review your application however I regret to inform you that we are unable to take your interest forward on this occasion.
We appreciate that flying with Netjets is an amazing opportunity and the outcome of your application will be a disappointment to you. We are, however, happy to provide feedback if you wish. If you would like to avail yourself of this offer, please call on +44 (0) 1789 XXX XXX.

Meantime thank you for your interest once again.
Kind regards

I believe that this is a tick in the box , business as usual..

I called three times for the debriefing, and finally I have a slot for the 7th May...
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 10:16
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Originally Posted by EatMyShorts! View Post
P, I am fully aware that the actions of 2012 were a disgrace, but these times are behind us, we are signing our new CBA today.

Your should have been invited for the last round of hiring a few weeks ago, haven't you applied?
These times are behind for the ones whom stayed, for the others it is still there, they fired people on long term disability leave, with no licence, no loss of licence insurance, no insurance whatsoever, people whom six years later are still paying the bill...
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 11:29
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I had a PFO from Netjets along with an offer of feedback - anyone else had that and taken them up on it?
Me too. Booked my slot for early next week with interest. Gutted really, as NJ was my original target when I got into commercial aviation >12y ago but before I had the hours to apply! With 000's of hours of European operations airline command time and and a succesfull business career before that, I know I'm not gods gift to aviation but I thought I at least ticked all their boxes enough to get myself a chance to sell myself in person. Hopefully it's because they were inundated with applications from biz jet guys/gals already rated on their types. From talking to other ex-corporate pilots, the lifestyle at NJ seems pretty much up there in terms of work/life balance in this sector.
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Old 9th May 2018, 11:05
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Ok guys, just got the debriefing from Kura.
Very nice people, although they are clueless about the specifics of business aviation, example, one of the reason my CV did not pass the cut was because I did not have a MCC certificate.... I have an ATPL since 1993...MPO operations on CS25 aircraft on my license with thousands of hours, but no MCC certificate....
Second, my english level is only 5 on my license although my certificate is level 6 ( french politics)....
and too many hours for applying for a first officer position
and that was it !

So Netjets played it very well with this provider, asking them criterion that would not be accessible to former captains ( at my time you would need 3500 hours to join the company)

Fly safe everyone !
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Old 9th May 2018, 11:10
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A complete joke !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 9th May 2018, 20:31
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Seems things have improved in one aspect, as a few of you were given the exceptional honour of a response to your application. Whoopee.
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Old 16th May 2018, 10:48
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Unhappy

Interesting to learn of the PFOs. I’ve only recieved the initial ‘we love you for applying and promise feedback’ automated response. Twice. Still waiting for the return love!
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Old 6th Jun 2018, 23:51
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Rumour has it that NetJets are quite busy at the moment. I've seen some base training on the Falcon 2000; does anyone know if there is any command recruitment ongoing, and if so what the potential opportunities would be like for rated Falcon 2000 commanders?
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Old 7th Jun 2018, 00:01
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Unfortunately NetJets Europe doesn't hire DEC pilots. There are occasionally office opportunities.
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