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b1900flyer 8th Feb 2018 15:12

Netjets Europe hiring FO's
 
https://jobsite.netjetseurope.com/se...Sociedad=0001#

Globally Challenged 8th Feb 2018 16:09

Still just €56k per year (same starting salary as 10 years ago)

Needles Crossed 10th Feb 2018 09:06

Any hints of rotation structure/selection process?

Catans 7th Mar 2018 09:36

Some answers in this thread:
https://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-f...ts-2018-a.html

Professor Plum 21st Mar 2018 09:31

Does anyone have any info on what UK airports are considered as gateway airports for netjets Europe?

How close do you have to live to the gateway?

Many thanks in advance

EatMyShorts! 21st Mar 2018 09:59

Live within 60 minutes travelling time to your gateway.
LHR, LGW, LTN, MAN, EDI, BHX (not sure), GOW (not sure). Somebody from the UK will hopefully chime in and correct/amend my information.

Professor Plum 21st Mar 2018 10:08

Eat my shorts,

Thanks for the info-greatly appreciated.

Do netjets and corporate operators tend to allow you to have a “crash pad” I,e a second house near a gateway that you can use in order to be 60mins away?

Sorry if that sounds like a stupid question. I’m currently in the military, and live in Lincolnshire. Looking to jump ship within the next few years, so I’m very new to the civilian world, with a lot to learn!

It would be handy if I could keep the family in Lincolnshire.

Thanks again.

what next 21st Mar 2018 11:06

Hello!


Originally Posted by Professor Plum (Post 10091364)
It would be handy if I could keep the family in Lincolnshire.

AFAIK they do not care where you actually live as long as you do the proceeding between your assigned/chosen gateway and your home in your off time. Netjets have a fixed roster which makes that very easy. I know at least two pilots from NJ whose family homes are quite far away from their gateway.

That can be totally different with other corporate or bizjet employers, especially when standby duties at your home base (or gateway) are required. In that case you must guarantee to be at the airport within an hour (or 30 minutes with some ambulance flyers I know of) which would require some kind of "crash pad" as you call it. Which of course is usually not cheap so close to major airports and therefore often not possible on an FOs pay...

EatMyShorts! 21st Mar 2018 13:17

In Netjets we have a fixed roster indeed. In the event of being assigned standby duty "at home", you'll have 45 minutes to leave your house from the time that you have been activated, another 60 minutes to arrive at your gateway airport terminal and another 60 minutes to the ETD of your airline: 2h45min.

If you have some friends/family near your gateway airport, you can possibly use that address. HR have been a bit picky on that in the past, but eased it in recent times. The bottom-line is: if you make your assigned airline, no questions will be asked. And nobody will get a verbal or written warning for missing an airline because of traffic on the road or a delayed train - as long as it does not happen every month.

Professor Plum 21st Mar 2018 14:06

Guys,

Thank you for all the info.

buzzc152 21st Mar 2018 16:59

For what it's worth there are quite a few ex mil (and non mil for that matter) guys at NJ who live in the Lincolnshire area. They have used Luton as a gateway for many years with no issues at all.

RAFAT 21st Mar 2018 17:39

I would suggest that in Lincolnshire, EMA would be a suitable 'Gateway'.

Jetscream 32 21st Mar 2018 17:51

ProPlum,

You will often be outbound from your gateway via scheduled airline to collect your aircraft for the next rotation period and just hurry up and wait and hop around Europe / MEA - depending on what type you get streamed for... bottom line is its all good fun and choose LTN or LHR and find a mate locally till you get the gig in order and your happy with it.

When you get there say hello to Millsy the tart from Kent for me :)

trancada 21st Mar 2018 17:59

How pilots are chosen for each type? Always start on Phenoom 300 then progress to the larger ones?

How long for commander upgrade?

binzer 21st Mar 2018 20:09


Originally Posted by Kelly Hopper (Post 10091790)
What does "gateway" mean? There is no legal term. It was invented by NJ. The legal term is "homebase" which means an airport. NJ like to use London as a "gateway." So depart LHR and step off the aircraft 6 days later at Biggin Hill? That's your problem! Just saying.

Kelly

What are you "just saying"

London is not a gateway, the nominated airports around London are gateways. Netjets will get you back to your gateway irrespective of where you finish.

If you don't know what "gateway" means with reference to Netjets you're not really well informed to give advice on this thread.

Just saying

EatMyShorts! 21st Mar 2018 20:29

@Kelly Hopper: indeed you don't seem to be well informed. As a crew member you choose your gateway (homebase) in the London area: LHR, LGW or LTN. When you happen to finish your tour in the London area anywhere else but your designated gateway airport, then you'll receive ground transport to get you to your starting point.

Globally Challenged 22nd Mar 2018 08:08


Originally Posted by Kelly Hopper (Post 10091790)
What does "gateway" mean? There is no legal term. It was invented by NJ. The legal term is "homebase" which means an airport. NJ like to use London as a "gateway." So depart LHR and step off the aircraft 6 days later at Biggin Hill? That's your problem! Just saying.

Disregard the above - it is nonsense

733driver 22nd Mar 2018 08:57


Originally Posted by trancada (Post 10091843)
How pilots are chosen for each type? Always start on Phenoom 300 then progress to the larger ones?

How long for commander upgrade?

Difficult to answer. Generally speaking it looks like new joiners would be assigned one of the least attractive types (Phenom, XLS). In the past this was not always true but I understand that this is the intention now. It's also how NJA in America do it. There career progression including fleet changes is by seniority. It looks like it's going that way at NJE, too.

Same for upgrades. Seniority based. No significant demand for new captains in the foreseeable future. Both NJA and NJE have plenty of 10+year FOs. At NJE there will be 200+ FOs in front of you for an upgrade

There is also no significant salary progression except for inflation correction.

Expect to still be an FO 10+ years after joining. Possibly on a Latitude by that time instead of on the XLS or Phenom that you would be likely to join today.

this is my username 25th Apr 2018 13:26

I had a PFO from Netjets along with an offer of feedback - anyone else had that and taken them up on it?

Dan_Brown 26th Apr 2018 09:14

Hire then fire.
 
Not very secure job wise, with fractionals.

This lot got the axe out with obsene hast and fired a lot of people, a few years ago. Flexjet Europe dont have a very good record in that department either.


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