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Old 29th Jan 2014, 07:51
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and the crews by in large are really fantastic people.
To get the record straight: the crew that I come across are a nice bunch and I am not knocking them. At the same time it is these really fantastic people who are the ones that are very unhappy about their package and seem to be looking around all the time...
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Old 5th Feb 2014, 21:01
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What's the story behind only accepting Russian pilot applications?
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Old 11th Feb 2014, 13:38
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What's the story behind only accepting Russian pilot applications?
Not true. Next!
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Old 12th Feb 2014, 11:06
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Thanks RedTree...was just questioning what was in the careers section of the VJ website. It's not there anymore. We live in hope!! Ta!
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Old 12th Feb 2014, 12:14
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From what I heard, just being a mate of a mate of someone who works there, is more than enough to get in (or at least an interview).
Referals are always welcome in any company to my knowledge.

Doesn't guarantee you a job though. You might get your foot in the door, but it's still up to you to walk through it!
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Old 13th Apr 2014, 16:15
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Vistajet interview

Hi all,
I would just like to share my experience with you about vistajet . I was invited to an assessment for FA in Farnborough and really I don't understand why they made me go there for nothing. During the previous phone call , someone called me and spoke to me about my brilliant experience in Middle East airlines, and even she dare to talk about there is high chance to be promoted in this
company....... With all of these I travelled to London for the interview

All the candidates were seated in a small room and 5 or 6 staff from vista seated around us and taking notes .... The guy and the girl doing the presentation knew nothing about vip, they were just showing off their "skills
It was a full day consisting of presentation of the company , and then each candidate had to do a 5 minutes presentation about a luxury brand , after that, we (about 10)were split up in 2 groups and we made a role play pretending we are doing a catering order.
The next step was a break of about 45 minutes.
Some candidates felt satisfied with the tests made and nearly everyone was talking about the roster and the base.
The lunch finished and we were put into a room , and called apart either individuallly or in group...I didn't see them again..... . Thinking I was going to do the final interview , instead the interviewers started like : "ohh you did it good in the beginning but your presentation was bit poor ?????? I was like whatttt? Hahaha couldn't believe it. My reply was this is your opinion, is very subjective , I stood up and I left ......really very disappointed about this company and their people....
On another hand , I would like to ask you about the situation of the market nowadays, I am searching for a job several months ago, and before I used to be called to work very fast, now I feel stuck, I don't know if there is someone in my same situation thanks.

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Old 14th Apr 2014, 04:44
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Unprofessional recruitment

I went for a the pilot assessment with Vista Jet back in 2010 in Fuerstenfeldbrueck, Germany. Back then, perhaps still, it was conducted by a recruitment company, with the representation of a Vistajet guy.

About a week later I received an email confirming the positive outcome of the assessment with congratulations. I was told, I would be contacted by Mr. Ambs (think that was the persons name) within a week. I heard no more. Contacted them a couple of time, with no reply.

I found this company to be very unprofessional. Avoid.
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Old 19th Apr 2014, 22:35
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Vistajet? Latest news, anyone?!

VistaJet Global, Ex OE-LXR seen at EGGW as N812SD. Anyone provide any details??
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Old 20th Apr 2014, 04:48
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Maybe it is being transferred to Jet Aviation (?) who are to manage the VistaJet brand/franchise/business in the US?
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Old 23rd Apr 2014, 11:26
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Nope it shows as for sale by Bombardier... So looks like a trade in
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Old 27th Apr 2014, 12:51
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@KANELA

That's normal in nowadays Vistajet. All has to be shiny, so the new interview is not really a surprise.

Rest assured , Vista from the inside is still the same as it was years ago. To be fair, hotel situation improved significantly. Rest is bad from a pilots point of view - management talks all the time about the great product but do not care about pilot feedback on unsatisfied customers. Operational mistakes happen a lot due to all the new people in the office. Funny as well how new people come out with "brand new" ideas which has been chased already unsuccessfully years ago. How could they know, there is nobody from the old people anymore telling that this is old, cold coffee they are re-heating.

Could go on and on....

To put ist short: Vista is a company that is very shiny - from the outside. If you are a "yes man"(or girl) you climb your career ladder within very fast, bypassing most of the "old" people.
If you got a job, stick with it. Except for our cabin girls which seem to have a good deal moneywise it is a very bad deal for pilots.

Promotions don't happen according seniority(which is an other funny game that management is playing continuously on us), they happen if Mr.V.d.M. likes your or not. Point.
Payrises happen the same way.
Be prepared that they hire new pilots unrated and put them right in front of you on a Global Express. That's how they treat long term employees. Say yes to their offer and the same thing could happen to you in a few years. I simply don't think someone should support companies like this one.

Still different contracts around, some even Offshore and this in a company having is HQ in the european union...

@Klimax

Yes , for a long time they did the interviews in Fuerstenfeldbruck. It was better then what they do now, still very basic. I found the young "psycho" girl very amusing during the different role plays ;-) .
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Old 27th Apr 2014, 19:42
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@de fumo

I heard some stories about new joiners, so I guess I understand what you mean . Unfortunately that's our new(ok, not so new anymore, must be more then 2 years now since Mr.Nick makes the calls and brings in a lot of his overqualified friends ) management.

At the end they have just to sell it in a good way to Mr.F.
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Old 10th May 2014, 11:28
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Actually, now I feel put out. I have known Mr Nick for over 10 years, am certainly over-qualified, yet he has never offered me a job! I think I will need to make an appointment with the psycho-girl and talk about my trauma.......

Come on guys......EVERY company has complaints, complainers, things that can be improved etc. I was just saddled with two clowns from owner's head office, who have been told to "reduce the costs of the aircraft operations." These people know nothing about aviation, don't even know what aircraft we have, if we own it, lease it, have it on an AOC.... It is like the biggest joke.

So I am certain they are reading articles on the internet, trying to learn something. The whole thing stems from another amateur, making a budget based on 360 hours a year. We are only flying 140.......SURPRISE! The hourly expenses when all the fixed costs are divided over so few hours is too high! Compared to the irrational budget created by someone who had no aviation background is the "expectation" and so we need to bring costs in line with this "budget." Well, I suppose we could fly more......which was the idea of the original amateur.

The whole point is that we will always deal with one aspect or another. Ops the world over will place you in a "cheap" hotel that is a 80 taxi away....saving 10 on a minimum rest night. They will put you in the middle of an industrial complex when you have 3 days.....or reward you for working so hard by placing you in a 5-star hotel, a two hour drive from the airport on a night with minimal rest.....so you cannot enjoy the spa, the all-inclusive perks or the free bar......

Quite funny at times......but find the perfect combination of great Ops, Travel, management, excellent salary, exciting destinations, good roster, good colleagues, excellent communication with the right amount of support ..............right? They never come together and all your positions will give you one balance or another. Enjoy it, contribute when you can, don't emotionally "own" your suggestions....stick to the knitting and make the best of it.
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Old 23rd May 2014, 14:59
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Any updates on the stateside operation? From what I've heard it's still in the planning stages, but when it comes to fruition it will be the same schedule of 17/13, you get 10 vacation days which have to be taken during your 13 off (this confuses me) and a starting salary of $85K for FOs.
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Old 25th May 2014, 08:41
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Ferry pilot,

What an astute post! I have experienced all the things you mention.

MM
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Old 26th May 2014, 15:02
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Has any of the Vista Globals been registered in the US after all? I cannot see them in the Jet fleet listings... If they are what are the registrations? Sorry that I sound like a spotter but just interested as they made a lot of noise in September last year with Wheels up and now I read that Wheels up partnered with Jet Aviation directly....
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Old 26th May 2014, 16:12
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Yes they are parked and flying out of Jet Aviation TEB.

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Old 26th May 2014, 16:25
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So far N500VJ and N501VJ
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Old 26th May 2014, 20:27
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Interesting, still registered as operated by VJ Austria despite the N registration.... May not mean much but I was expecting that they would be registered with Jet....

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Old 2nd Jun 2014, 09:46
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Yes they are parked and flying out of Jet Aviation TEB.
Ok but I don't see them on an AOC...
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