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Old 29th Nov 2012, 18:30
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LRPilot,

Someone just forwarded this link to me. Looks reasonably up-to-date:

VistaJet pilot jobs, payscales and entry requirements.

One question for RedTree and others - what happened to the data related to the Lear 85 order? I thought I saw 11 Lear 85s on the "ordered" fleet portion of the page and it has been deleted. Does this mean VistaJet is not ordering the Lear 85 for shorter charter segments (just focusing on long haul bizjets)? Are the Lears still coming?

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Old 29th Nov 2012, 19:06
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Hi Iver,
thank you for the link.
You have a PM
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Old 30th Nov 2012, 11:53
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Wow. Better not show that link to management at my company, they'll start wanting to cut our pay.
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Old 30th Nov 2012, 19:19
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Not having a go at VJ in any way, but those salaries on PPJN are very low compared to industry standards for GLEX . Are they correct or do they need to be updated??
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Old 30th Nov 2012, 21:18
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Very, very low, but it seems to be the Austrian way, unfortunately for everybody.
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Old 2nd Dec 2012, 11:28
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One question for RedTree and others - what happened to the data related to the Lear 85 order? I thought I saw 11 Lear 85s on the "ordered" fleet portion of the page and it has been deleted. Does this mean VistaJet is not ordering the Lear 85 for shorter charter segments (just focusing on long haul bizjets)? Are the Lears still coming?
Hi Iver, Yes, the Lear 85's are still coming, once Bombardier completes testing and places the model into production, I believe we'll see them towards 2014.

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Old 13th Dec 2012, 06:32
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world tour

Anyone have any anecdotes about the VistaJetís Bombardier Global 6000 world tour, currently underway? The Eastern half of the world, anyway. MEBA on Tuesday, Riyadh on Wednesday, probably back to London today, the starting point. I'm sure it wasn't just a sales trip but also a test flight to check facilities and accomodation is places like Almaty, Vladivostok, Ulan Bator and other stops, including a couple in India. There must be a few stories to be told.
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Old 13th Dec 2012, 12:53
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Red Tree, eventually they will be caught doing illegal charters out of China and Hong Kong, they should be very careful whose toes they step on in Asia.
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Old 18th Dec 2012, 16:00
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Red Tree, eventually they will be caught doing illegal charters out of China and Hong Kong, they should be very careful whose toes they step on in Asia.
B200Drvr, I cannot understand such slanderous comments?? VistaJet has never, and will never be involved in illegal charters:

VistaJet and Beijing Airlines Partner for Charter in China | Aviation International News
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Old 18th Dec 2012, 17:05
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RedTree, people are bashing on Vista the same way they were bashing on Netjets 8 years ago.; " What? you are going to this outfit ? blablablabla.." in the meantime they were the first to send resume in, and miserably fail the selection process, hence the anger.
People working in companies that could not achieve what Mr Flohr has done by himself are obviously envious and cannot imagine that somebody succeed where they failed.
After the expansion time will come a "plateau", then people will start to say that after all, it was not a good company, blablabla...and whatever or wherever the company will be in 5 or 10 years from now, you will always find someone who knows better about aviation then the people whom are actually doing the aviation.
So T&C, can be an endless discussion, not good enough? please do not send your resume...this is it ! It is like people applying at RYR, or EZ , they know what to expect no ?
Congratulation to your company, it is growing during these troubled times and if there is some happy people within, this is great; if the unhappy people are leaving, that is even better.
Enjoy every drop of it.. Life is short !
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Old 19th Dec 2012, 18:06
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Because ordering $4b of aircraft at once totally worked for NetJets.
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Old 19th Dec 2012, 21:34
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Your argument is completely undermined by the fact that (the last time I checked) Flohr doesn't have Buffet's money.

I'm still a sceptic.
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Old 20th Dec 2012, 05:14
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Money buys time... nothing else. If you have less money you just need to be better...There is a lot of successful stories which started without a lot of money. There is a lot of enormous crashes which started with a lot of money.

Future will tell; but it is very annoying having the same trolls over and over again, bashing about a company that is not closing...
Business goes up and down, if you are lucky enough to ride the proper wave, you will never see any troubled waters, if not... you need to paddle..
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 04:16
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Redtree, "letter of understanding" and "eventually" and yet they are currently doing charter work on OE registered aircraft in the region, furthermore, A China AOC does not cover Hong Kong!
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 08:11
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Yep they still get away with charter out of HK! Saying that every man and his dog doing FAA part 135 out of Hong Kong, CAD does not mind.
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Old 5th Jan 2013, 09:13
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the pay scale is 50,000 Euros / year for FO and 100,000 Euro / year for Captain. You pay for your own tax, housing and uniform laundry........ if you are a TRE you get $250 Euros / day during the training only.....

This is the contract as of 2013.
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Old 5th Jan 2013, 18:01
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Anyone knows if Vista jet moved all OCC department from Salitzburg to Malta ?
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Old 6th Jan 2013, 11:41
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Anyone knows if Vista jet moved all OCC department from Salitzburg to Malta ?
Also interested in this...
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Old 15th Jan 2013, 13:45
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Anyone knows if Vista jet moved all OCC department from Salitzburg to Malta ?
Not yet.....

Soon.
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Old 26th Jan 2013, 13:03
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On top of basic are there any per diems? What UK gateways have they?
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