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Old 13th Apr 2009, 22:49
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Hellos there, I have a rather complex situation and I need help please !

Can a JAA frozen ATPL license holder do the base check (touch & go) for a new type rating on an "F" registered aircraft (F-WAAA to F-WZZZ (Test and Delivery))?

I need to know because it can save a lot of hassle to complete these touch and go's as soon as we receive the aircraft within the USA before we change its registration to a European one.

I believe it can be done because one way or another European pilots conduct acceptance flights on "F" registered aircrafts before they get the final European registration.

In addition, I believe a JAA TRI is sufficient to do these flights and a TRE is not required, am I wrong?

And finally, as far as the questions above, UK CAA applies the exact same rules for these matters as JAR correct? Cause I have a JAA license trying to get a UK CAA one and I am not sure will it will be one time so I am not sure on which license the TR will be applied to, the UK CAA or JAA

Any notions or experience will be appreciated.

Thanks a lot and happy landings,

LU

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Base check

LU

It depends what you mean by a base check.

These CamFlight - Advanced Avionics and Recurrent Flight Training - CamFlight - Advanced Avionics and Recurrent Flight Training guys have given me good advice on cross licensing issues before.

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landings

The touch and goes (6 or 3 depending upon qualifiaction) can be done by any type qualified TRI or TRE. It can be done on any EASA state registered aircraft by any
JAR licenced check pilot. eg a britsh pilot with a JAR licence and TRI approval can do this training on any EASA state aircraft. The check pilot CANNOT do this training with only a State issued licence. ie a UK licenced TRI can only do it on a G registered aircraft.
There is no point in having a State only issued licence anymore, it is only the fee and 3 hours wait at the CAA to get the JAR licence.
The neat way to do this is to have a TRE on board the delivery flight, then the 6 take and landings can be done on the way home.
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Its actually 6 & 4 landings depending on experience, and if it helps I did my 4 circuits in an N reg aircraft for UK JAA license issue. The instructor was a FAA TRI and an honourary JAA TRI so all perfectly legal.

The CAA accepted the training on an N reg aircraft

As a red herring I had also put my type on my FAA ATP and had a temporary US certificate.

a TRI is sufficient it doesnt need to be a TRE
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Thanks

Great answers, Ill take it up with the CAA to make sure they dont give me any problems.

In case they do, you know where it says officialy it can be any reg, aircraft? couldnt find an official document

All the best,

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