American Pilots in UK/EU
Registered User **
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Cosmos
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Green Card/Marriege
Yeap,you can go that route,and it does work.At this point in time,it takes 6 to 9 months from "Fileing" to "Working". Hints: Marry IN USA,(less complicated).
After the marriage,do not bust your 90 day Visa Waiver peroid.(That is a favouite pit fall).Once you return to EU,you will be well advised to stay out of USA until you get residency,green card etc.There is nothing in black and white to say that you cannot visit while your application is being processed,but US Immigration WILL have you on their computer system as "Application in process".They can,and do put you on the 1st. flight from whence you came.(i.e. dont make waves!).Lastly,dont foget the "prenup" !
After the marriage,do not bust your 90 day Visa Waiver peroid.(That is a favouite pit fall).Once you return to EU,you will be well advised to stay out of USA until you get residency,green card etc.There is nothing in black and white to say that you cannot visit while your application is being processed,but US Immigration WILL have you on their computer system as "Application in process".They can,and do put you on the 1st. flight from whence you came.(i.e. dont make waves!).Lastly,dont foget the "prenup" !
Registered User **
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Cosmos
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Working in USA
No,Not Me,but I know somebody that has just been through it.Not in aviation,but same deal.A "Genuine" relationship,and the decision was made to live and work over there for a few years anyway.
You can do it either way,of course.The reason many people do marry this side of the pond is because they do genuinely meet an american who is already in Europe,working or on vacation. After some research,my colleague was advised that "wheels" would turn faster if you marry a U.S. citizen in the USA.I guess that like any govt.dept.,they are quicker dealing with their own paperwork,(in this case the american marriage certificate),than one from a foreign country that has to be authenticated by that country's foreign office etc.
I see the logic.USA Embassy was very open and helpfull to the applicant.
Again,sign a prenup,or marry a rich one.(just my opinion!)
You can do it either way,of course.The reason many people do marry this side of the pond is because they do genuinely meet an american who is already in Europe,working or on vacation. After some research,my colleague was advised that "wheels" would turn faster if you marry a U.S. citizen in the USA.I guess that like any govt.dept.,they are quicker dealing with their own paperwork,(in this case the american marriage certificate),than one from a foreign country that has to be authenticated by that country's foreign office etc.
I see the logic.USA Embassy was very open and helpfull to the applicant.
Again,sign a prenup,or marry a rich one.(just my opinion!)
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Edinburgh
Age: 47
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Ireland
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
FYI - If you marry in the states it will take about 3 years. I have friends still waiting after 7 years !!! I seriously kid you not.
Marry in Europe and different story. It is processed at the local embassy and takes as little as 6 to 9 months. Might change though.
I have been married for 4 years and I am still waiting, all of my papers are in order. Its beyond a joke.
AND its is getting much worse !!!
USA is locking down its borders faster than you think.
Marry in Europe and different story. It is processed at the local embassy and takes as little as 6 to 9 months. Might change though.
I have been married for 4 years and I am still waiting, all of my papers are in order. Its beyond a joke.
AND its is getting much worse !!!
USA is locking down its borders faster than you think.
Registered User **
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Cosmos
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
USA Marriage.
I think that there is some element of confusion here.I am sure these horror stories are true,BUT one needs to check out the sequence of doing things.A non-pilot friend of mine,(with no specialist work qualifications), was up and running in well under 1 year.He spent $s on a US lawyer,(specialist),on EXACTLY what order,and what "state" in The US,to process the whole application,based on Marrying a US Citizen.The US Embassy in Europe were efficient,and helpful,(but not cheap!). If you don't want to marry ,forget it!
I am going to the states in nov.,I will ask him,and his american wife.
I am going to the states in nov.,I will ask him,and his american wife.
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: FL450
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well! I have heard and seen over the years what people will do to get on in this career but this thread which seems to condone marriage to a stranger in order to get a job????
How sad and desparate can you guys be?
The heartache and pain you can inflick on others by doing such a selfish thing, have you considered that?
The world is full of "users." Do you really want to be one aswell?
How sad and desparate can you guys be?
The heartache and pain you can inflick on others by doing such a selfish thing, have you considered that?
The world is full of "users." Do you really want to be one aswell?
Registered User **
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Cosmos
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Working in USA
Well,my buddy had been going out with his fiancee for 7 years,so not really applicable in that case. I hear what you say,but are you and I not very lucky that We don't have to consider such measures? There is a real world out there,and it is not too perfect in just about every walk of life.I find your opinion somewhat pompeous and unrealistic in the year 2006. Good Luck to You guys,and I hope your efforts put You in the left seat of a GV.......eventually!
Mercuray
Mercuray
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: OFFSHORE
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hello people! Hate to start the fire again, but I am not a US citizen with no work permit (only a crew visa) but doing contract work for a US company (not mainland) paid in US dollars. They are trying to get me a work visa but so far it has taken 9 months. I have also got one of my compatriots a job as well and they are sponsoring his visa application too. Yes it is nice but no medical insurance, sick days, leave etc.
As to the marriage thing would you really want to?
If you have a look around and hard, there are US jobs out there
happy flying
As to the marriage thing would you really want to?
If you have a look around and hard, there are US jobs out there
happy flying
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: FL450
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Mercuray.
Well speaking from life's experience I can tell you that I am very far from being pompous as anyone who knows me would tell you, but I do have certain morals in life that others perhaps may not have.
Using people and lying to others as well as to yourself is not one of them, and never will be.
Anyone prepared to do such a thing has great sympathy from me; they must be very sad.
Oh, and by the way, P1, GV, done it, got the tee-shirt. Very nice but did it through years of hard work, sacrifice and determination. Not by deception and destroying others people's lives. There we differ.
Well speaking from life's experience I can tell you that I am very far from being pompous as anyone who knows me would tell you, but I do have certain morals in life that others perhaps may not have.
Using people and lying to others as well as to yourself is not one of them, and never will be.
Anyone prepared to do such a thing has great sympathy from me; they must be very sad.
Oh, and by the way, P1, GV, done it, got the tee-shirt. Very nice but did it through years of hard work, sacrifice and determination. Not by deception and destroying others people's lives. There we differ.
Registered User **
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Cosmos
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
USA Marriage.
Yeah,Yeah,whatever.(you may be surprised how such marriages can actually "benefit" 2 people,as oppossed to "ruin" anybody).I am not so convinced that you have the full set of T-Shirts yet.You certainly have a very valid point,but it is just that "A Point".I believe that you miss the bigger picture.Are you suggesting that these folk dont work hard? Got nothing to do with it.I suggest that they are having to work at it a lot harder than you or I ever did.We are all in a different situation in a world that becomes trickier by the day.(No big surprise there!) 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: homeless
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
globallocal do you work as a pilot? Are you from the UK?
If so can you tell us how you found an employer in the first place? I thought that a job as a pilot would not qualify for a work visa.
If so can you tell us how you found an employer in the first place? I thought that a job as a pilot would not qualify for a work visa.
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Ireland
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Kelly Hopper
Frankly when you say "destroying others people's lives" well, I think thats a bit rich.
I met my wife in London and I didnt even know she had a US passport.
Fact is, if you are young and it is your desire to live or work in the USA then why not find the love of your life with a passport that creates some synergy ? You know it works both ways. Americans like to live in Europe also.
Not too complicated really.
Frankly when you say "destroying others people's lives" well, I think thats a bit rich.
I met my wife in London and I didnt even know she had a US passport.
Fact is, if you are young and it is your desire to live or work in the USA then why not find the love of your life with a passport that creates some synergy ? You know it works both ways. Americans like to live in Europe also.
Not too complicated really.
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: OFFSHORE
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
yes pilot on a GLEX. no from Oz. Word of mouth, but they have been running adds on climbto350. We have a full compliment at the moment unless you are a Captain on the Global, don't need to be current!
Join Date: May 2006
Location: NA
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
too bad we can't start a "multi-country cooperation" programme wherby we could all swap spouses, sisters, and divorced mothers--not in reality, but on paper--and solve our respective work permitting problems. sometimes individuals post shady advertisements for such things on craigslist sites in the EU and US.
I for one knew a Slovenian girl in the US who offered an American pilot marriage in return for the automatic spousal level flight benefits. He would in turn learn Slovenian and acquire, eventually, an EU passport. All it would have took (in the U.S.) was a quick trip to a city government office and a $15 marriage license fee. The U.S. also has very widely used pre-nuptial contracts (available online, in fact)...so you could essentially outline the terms of separation in advance to make sure she doesn't get your money.
Seriously...American girls (especially in the Midwest) will marry a strapping Brit in a millisecond.
I'll trade my American-born sister (citizen) for your Brit-born sister!!! She studies all the time at University anyways. Perhaps we could pull it off without the sister's ever knowing.
I for one knew a Slovenian girl in the US who offered an American pilot marriage in return for the automatic spousal level flight benefits. He would in turn learn Slovenian and acquire, eventually, an EU passport. All it would have took (in the U.S.) was a quick trip to a city government office and a $15 marriage license fee. The U.S. also has very widely used pre-nuptial contracts (available online, in fact)...so you could essentially outline the terms of separation in advance to make sure she doesn't get your money.
Seriously...American girls (especially in the Midwest) will marry a strapping Brit in a millisecond.
I'll trade my American-born sister (citizen) for your Brit-born sister!!! She studies all the time at University anyways. Perhaps we could pull it off without the sister's ever knowing.
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: SEA
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
DON'T MARRY AN AMERICAN WOMAN. You will need to have 3 jobs in the same time: a job as a 30 years senior Captain at United, a job as an well established lawyer, a job as a succesfull doctor. Working all three jobs in the same time will just keep you afloat for very very very little time. After the divorce you will need at least 3 more jobs for many, many years to pay for the period when you were married. Plus they are fat with a big attitude and the sex is not that great.
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: I can see it from here.
Posts: 678
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
DON'T MARRY AN AMERICAN WOMAN. You will need to have 3 jobs in the same time: a job as a 30 years senior Captain at United, a job as an well established lawyer, a job as a succesfull doctor. Working all three jobs in the same time will just keep you afloat for very very very little time. After the divorce you will need at least 3 more jobs for many, many years to pay for the period when you were married. Plus they are fat with a big attitude and the sex is not that great.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: deco stop
Posts: 341
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
back to the thread:
An American (non EU, or JAA), FAA ATP, typed on a specific corporate jet, has been given by the UK CAA a validation on a UK registered aircraft.
Can I ask the FAA to do the same deal for me.
We both fly the same type, so you could say he has taken my potental employment.
windy
Can I ask the FAA to do the same deal for me.
We both fly the same type, so you could say he has taken my potental employment.
windy
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: OFFSHORE
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The world is flat and getting smaller by the day.
I heard a rumor that they are going to reduce the validation process for non JAA lic. Something will have to be done for the Asian giant is awakening and going to suck a lot of corporate pilots to the area when it does.
I heard a rumor that they are going to reduce the validation process for non JAA lic. Something will have to be done for the Asian giant is awakening and going to suck a lot of corporate pilots to the area when it does.
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: I can see it from here.
Posts: 678
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Reduce the validation process? That will be interesting. How will Europe protect its outrageous training costs then? After all, thats the only reason the validations are so tough anyway.