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One of my "Then"'s above was Scheduling messing around with FTL's. Whilst I know that NJE is not a UK AOC holder CAP371, the UK CAA document for Avoidance of Fatigue in Aircrews, is generally accepted in the industry as best practice.
Imagine my surprise when Mike Jenvey posted a reply on a different forum quoting and linking CAP371.
So Mike and the rest of NJE just to remind you what CAP371 has to say on positioning:
"'Positioning'
The practice of transferring crew from place to place as passengers in surface or air transport at the behest of an operator.
11.1 All time spent on positioning at the behest of an operator shall count as duty, but positioning does not count as a sector when calculating the FDP."
Imagine my surprise when Mike Jenvey posted a reply on a different forum quoting and linking CAP371.
So Mike and the rest of NJE just to remind you what CAP371 has to say on positioning:
"'Positioning'
The practice of transferring crew from place to place as passengers in surface or air transport at the behest of an operator.
11.1 All time spent on positioning at the behest of an operator shall count as duty, but positioning does not count as a sector when calculating the FDP."
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Wrong Sisters
Nice really good post.
Incidentally what does CAP371 have to say about paid vacation days. Ie. definition thereof ?
Mike Jenvey any of yout rose tinted cheerleading on this ?
Nice really good post.
Incidentally what does CAP371 have to say about paid vacation days. Ie. definition thereof ?
Mike Jenvey any of yout rose tinted cheerleading on this ?
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MJ Sorry if I have reading difficulties I'm obviously not as well educated as you. So let me rephrase "Then" ([n] that time; that moment
ie when I worked for NJE. "Now" ([n] the momentary present; ) ie. my current company.
Haffa
You've got me going now ....
Vacation/CAP371 - does not cover as not relevant
Vacation v NJE Contract
Contract based on Isle of Man Law?
"5. Holidays and holiday pay
You are entitled to 25 days paid holiday in a full holiday year. The holiday year runs from 1 April to 31 March.......You are entitled to 10 paid public/ bank holidays per year."
Click here for full document So how come NJE only offer 14 days?
If its based on Cayman Isand Law, where I can find no reference to holiday entitlement, take a peek at the new Employment Law 2004 which states:
Standard Work
9 hours – day
37.5 hours – 40 hours in any 168 hours
How does NJE marry this up with the 55 hour max duty week?
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Picking & cherry springs to mind!
Lets face it big multi nationals are good at avoiding tax and good at avoiding employees rights. Now where was I before I scribbled this? Oh forgot I'm on leave - 21 days taken this year and 22 days left!
ie when I worked for NJE. "Now" ([n] the momentary present; ) ie. my current company.Haffa
You've got me going now ....
Vacation/CAP371 - does not cover as not relevant
Vacation v NJE Contract
Contract based on Isle of Man Law?
"5. Holidays and holiday pay
You are entitled to 25 days paid holiday in a full holiday year. The holiday year runs from 1 April to 31 March.......You are entitled to 10 paid public/ bank holidays per year."
Click here for full document So how come NJE only offer 14 days?
If its based on Cayman Isand Law, where I can find no reference to holiday entitlement, take a peek at the new Employment Law 2004 which states:
Standard Work
9 hours – day
37.5 hours – 40 hours in any 168 hours
How does NJE marry this up with the 55 hour max duty week?
Click here for full document
Picking & cherry springs to mind!
Lets face it big multi nationals are good at avoiding tax and good at avoiding employees rights. Now where was I before I scribbled this? Oh forgot I'm on leave - 21 days taken this year and 22 days left!
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CAP371
Guys,
What on earth has CAP371 to do with INAC regulations?
Its comparing apples and peanuts.
Wrong Sisters,
What are you trying to achieve with this stuff about vacationdays regarding NJE?
Cheers,
B
What on earth has CAP371 to do with INAC regulations?
Its comparing apples and peanuts.
Wrong Sisters,
What are you trying to achieve with this stuff about vacationdays regarding NJE?
Cheers,
B
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NJE complies fully with FDR as stated in JAR OPS 1 and INAC.
Anybody who claims different does not know.
Positionings to and from home are paid by the company.
When working for any other comany and living abroad you position in your own time and on own expense !
If you do not agree with the contract; well...do not sign and leave.
If you do not know where you talk about do not smash any mud against NJE.
Thank you moderators to show your real personallity by commenting the way you did in this topic.
It's a shame....but shows your real level !
Anybody who claims different does not know.
Positionings to and from home are paid by the company.
When working for any other comany and living abroad you position in your own time and on own expense !
If you do not agree with the contract; well...do not sign and leave.
If you do not know where you talk about do not smash any mud against NJE.
Thank you moderators to show your real personallity by commenting the way you did in this topic.
It's a shame....but shows your real level !
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I agree with mike, nje is a good company to work for. The roster I have is pretty much the same, in summer the roster is more like 6/4 but from sept till may its more like 6/5 or better.
On the average a copilot will get an opportunity for an upgrade within the year. I did an upgrade after 6 months.
Tha passing grade is a bit bettter for guys/girls with previous command experience, but that is something which you can expect I think.
Don't be all negative guys about NJE!!
D.B.
On the average a copilot will get an opportunity for an upgrade within the year. I did an upgrade after 6 months.
Tha passing grade is a bit bettter for guys/girls with previous command experience, but that is something which you can expect I think.
Don't be all negative guys about NJE!!
D.B.
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How are aircraft positions allocated to newhires?
Let's say you have the minimum number of hours (most PIC) for any of the aircraft on the line. Is it a matter of need on the fleet or can you be given a choice? What about previous experience in type? In other words, could you (experience permitting) be placed in a Bravo or a GIV depending upon the need at the time? Is there a seat-lock for a number of years after you are placed on that aircraft?
Once you are hired and spent a few years there, do you just bid any aircraft seat you can on larger aircraft or are you expected to move to the LHS of the aircraft you are currently flying?
Cheers
Let's say you have the minimum number of hours (most PIC) for any of the aircraft on the line. Is it a matter of need on the fleet or can you be given a choice? What about previous experience in type? In other words, could you (experience permitting) be placed in a Bravo or a GIV depending upon the need at the time? Is there a seat-lock for a number of years after you are placed on that aircraft?
Once you are hired and spent a few years there, do you just bid any aircraft seat you can on larger aircraft or are you expected to move to the LHS of the aircraft you are currently flying?
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The 'entry level' fleets sell more aircraft so logically that is where most people go.
Most people transfer to one of these fleets for their first command although those with significant time on a given type may move to the LHS.
This is all variable though and depends on nothing more complicated than where pilots are needed.
Most people transfer to one of these fleets for their first command although those with significant time on a given type may move to the LHS.
This is all variable though and depends on nothing more complicated than where pilots are needed.
PPRuNe Handmaiden
Pretty happy with the type I got. 
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So, you must have gotten the GIV fleet - nice. From a quality of life perspective (schedules, time on the road, workload), does it make much difference what fleet you get on? Obviously the Falcon and Gulfstreams have flight attendants, but what about schedule and time on the road? Would a newhire on the Bravo have a much different experience than a newhire on a Falcon or Gulfstream?
For the Gulfstream, how much time do you spend away from home per month and what percentage of travel is outside of Europe/Med. (i.e., flights to North America, Asia, etc.)?
For the Gulfstream, how much time do you spend away from home per month and what percentage of travel is outside of Europe/Med. (i.e., flights to North America, Asia, etc.)?
PPRuNe Handmaiden
GIV? Nooooooooooooo......... 
