Well, that challenge seems pretty comprehensively demolished! As if the damn thing needed any help!

Noyade mon brave, à toi!

Thank you Mel.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....53696d2436.jpg

looks like passenger windows behind the gentleman in the black hat?

French?

It's described (my source) as an "eight-place transport."
Not French.

I have this nagging feeling I've seen it before but WHERE??

Is it something to do with TravelAir out of Wichita??

A Different Mann
 

When a gap allows, would the mods permit, in the interests of accuracy, a reference back to post #4229 , concerning the designer of the Mann & Grimmer M. 1? That 'Mann' was not the Mann and Edgerton Mann, who was a Gerald, but one of the two people who designed and sold early A-frame twin pusher rubber-powered model aircraft "guaranteed to fly at least a quarter of a mile" in Surbiton just before WW1. The south-west suburbs of London seem to have been quite a centre of activity for both model and full-sized aviation around that time; as well as Mann and Grimmer, Sopwith was based at nearby Kingston as was Clarkes, whose main product was aircraft propellers, as well as Britain's first ready-to-fly model aircraft.

The subject and a lot more is covered in detail in A Century of British Free Flight, published by the British Model Flying Association. Is a link allowed? https://shop.bmfa.org/product/a-cent...ee-flight-book

From Cleveland. Not Travel Air.

I'm sure you've seen this machine a thousand times before - in its military guise. :)

Ah! Cleveland's a bit of a giveaway. It's a Glenn Martin TG1, an unsuccessful civvie version of their T4M torpedo bomber.

edit. I suspect the pic below is the Great Lakes built TG2 with a Wright 1820 Cyclone instead of the original P & W engine.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5c04e71150.png

That'll do me Mel.:ok:
Back to you.

Martin had moved out by then and Great Lakes acquired the factory. Aerofiles have dubbed it thus...

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6c489cbe6e.png

I originally made sure to crop that torpedo accommodating undercart. :)

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bd014992c4.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....eecbcf6709.png

Cheers!

Did it carry torpedoes attached to the horizontal bar at the u/gear? and how was the rear part of the torpedo suspended?

Torpedo was closely underslung on the Martin, and maybe the extra strutting was to prevent snagging as it fell away. Can’t work out what those eight vertical “hooks” next to the wheels are for though? The Great Lakes still has the mountings and what looks like a control cable.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9ab8ded8b.jpeg

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9b209ba5f3.png

The multiple Hooks are explained here thnarg -

Ah thanks ‘ron. Thought they might be something to do with arresting but surely you’d end up staring at the deck! Sorry mel, now back to your puzzle…

Is the challenge Russian - interesting front end..................

Interesting front end indeed.
And no, not Ruzzian.

Looks like a Rotax 2 cyl 2 stroke; fan cooled; the 'things' on the side of the cowling being the covers for the carbs at the top and exhaust pipes below..
End plates on the wingtips.
Course I'm probably talking b0ll0cks.

doesn't even look like English to us non-mechanical types......................... :uhoh:

Sho' are.
That's a good honest C90, not some nasty 2-stroke thing.

For some reason I am no longer able to access a past post to edit it.
Asturias, it isn't English because we don't make aircraft that ugly.