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washoutt 6th Aug 2022 08:55

The photograph seems to show a tractor propeller, but Wikipedia speaks of a pusher prop. Am I missing something?

Noyade 6th Aug 2022 09:33


Originally Posted by washoutt (Post 11273855)
The photograph seems to show a tractor propeller, but Wikipedia speaks of a pusher prop. Am I missing something?

I'm thinking Wiki has it wrong. Definitely a tractor prop...


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....627e48466e.jpg

Noyade 6th Aug 2022 09:34

Thanks Bear!

Open House.

Noyade 14th Aug 2022 00:05

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....950f410b2e.jpg

meleagertoo 14th Aug 2022 14:44

Well, I call the engine an Armstrong-Siddeley Serval, but darned if I can match the airframe to it.
Wapiti is as close as I can get but that pairing was never made afaik.

Self loading bear 14th Aug 2022 16:53

Thanks for pointing me to the Armstrong-Siddeley engines
I think it is a 14 cylinder Tiger.
I therefore stab at the AW-19
.
recall that:

AW-19 doesn’t have a cross bar between the wheels.
perhaps a Fairey IIIE with ferret engine. Or a Fairey Seal or Gordon but it doesn’t match the AS panther engine which was normally fitted.

Noyade 15th Aug 2022 02:22


Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 11278267)
Serval

Jaguar.
It is British - but not from Fairey.
Only three aircraft built...

Beamr 15th Aug 2022 06:51

I'm throwing in the ANEC III.

Originally three made with RR engines and delivered to Australia. One crashed and the remaining two then equipped with the A-S Jaguar engines. So, if my guess is correct, most likely even though being british, that picture is taken in Australia in between 1928 and 1932.


Noyade 15th Aug 2022 23:50

Yes. The ANEC III re-engined with the Jupiter in Australia.
Over to you Beamer.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....694e900fdb.jpg

dduxbury310 16th Aug 2022 03:46

That engine change managed to convert a very ugly-looking aircraft to one that just looks totally weird to the onlooker!

Beamr 16th Aug 2022 05:12

Thank you Noyade! I'd be interested in the C of G properties of the aircraft after the engine swap....

What would you have to say about this?

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....37c58fe9e3.jpg

Beamr 17th Aug 2022 04:39

it isn't exactly a delta wing, quite the opposite.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b30ba420f5.jpg

Noyade 17th Aug 2022 09:50

Ahhh...Mr Payen!


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....757e4e6602.jpg

Beamr 17th Aug 2022 10:58

That's the one, the pagan butterfly. And for me it is not that bad looking aircraft either.

Ball's back in your corner, Noyade.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3aece05fd3.jpg

Noyade 18th Aug 2022 06:12

Thanks Beamr.
The whole aircraft this time...


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e026ac8be1.jpg

Noyade 20th Aug 2022 09:20

USA.
Reasonably well known manufacturer. They built aircraft for the US Army and Navy and a variety of single and two-seat biplanes.
Only three built. Listed in Aerofiles on a dedicated page for the manufacturer - but no photo.

MReyn24050 21st Aug 2022 16:06

Some big stretches of water involved here I believe.

meleagertoo 21st Aug 2022 19:18

I want to say a Curtis Small America but I can't find one with those engines, and the characteristic Curtis flared hull doesn't seem to be there. Shame the tail's obscured, that'd be a game-changer.

Noyade 22nd Aug 2022 08:44

I had a little accident. Difficult typing.
I'll close this one with OPEN HOUSE.

Great Lakes 4-A-1


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1cd2c3665f.jpg

treadigraph 22nd Aug 2022 10:03

Little accident? That looks like a great big one to me, either that or excessive packaging a la Amazon. Sorry to see that, hope you have a swift and pain free recovery!


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