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Noyade 6th Jan 2023 11:24


Originally Posted by treadigraph (Post 11360792)
Agree, pretty certain it merited a mention in a very early Observers Book of Aircraft I acquired many years ago. Stuffed in the loft somewhere.

Possibly the 1958 edition Treaders...


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....61cda23c08.jpg


teusje 6th Jan 2023 11:33

Not the PZL P.50 Jastrząb.

Expatrick 6th Jan 2023 11:54


Originally Posted by teusje (Post 11360850)
Not the PZL P.50 Jastrząb.

I can see that now, I should have waited!

treadigraph 6th Jan 2023 12:53


Originally Posted by Noyade (Post 11360843)
Possibly the 1958 edition Treaders...


You may very well be right! I used to scour the second hand book stalls at airshows and picked up a few old Observers for not a lot...

meleagertoo 6th Jan 2023 14:39

It's a LWD/WSK Junak

By George 7th Jan 2023 08:48

I have a 1961 Observer's World Aircraft Directory and it is indeed a LWD Junak 3 (page 327)

Described as a two-seat primary trainer used by the Polish Air Force.

teusje 7th Jan 2023 09:35

Yes it's the LWD Junak 3, and it seems Noyade found it first, so over to you.

Noyade 7th Jan 2023 10:27

Thanks teusje - but I'm gonna have to call open house.

Self loading bear 7th Jan 2023 10:51

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If you want to help please send a PM and I will share the excel file with you and we divide the work.

BEagle 7th Jan 2023 16:00

Open House challenge:


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....dd44c86445.jpg

chevvron 7th Jan 2023 17:28

Looks just like a Canberra.

BEagle 7th Jan 2023 17:33

It isn't a Canberra, sorry.....

Noyade 7th Jan 2023 18:01

Nene powered Gloster Meteor F.4?

Sunday Edit:

flickr says F.4.
Wiki says F.8?


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7028ef237f.jpg

teusje 7th Jan 2023 18:26

Tupolev Tu-12?

BEagle 7th Jan 2023 21:49

Not a Tupolev Tu-12....

Asturias56 8th Jan 2023 07:18

that picture from Noyade looks pretty convincing!

safetypee 8th Jan 2023 11:22

But could there be a French connection ?

BEagle 8th Jan 2023 11:44

There is no French connection.......

.......as far as I'm aware!

safetypee 8th Jan 2023 12:48

French - I was influenced by the aircraft behind the Meteor in the link https://i.pinimg.com/736x/fc/28/a9/f...d4cec4d6bb.jpg
but on reflection that could be the SB5.

Thus a Meteor RR Nene engine jet dflection test bed.

And a guess at F'boro airshow static display


BEagle 8th Jan 2023 14:48

Normally one should wait 24 hrs before confirming the answer, but I will be away from my computer by then...

The aircraft in question is indeed RA490, a Meteor F Mk 4 test bed converted by Westlands, fitted with 2 x RR Nenes and deflection ducts. The aim of the conversion was to allow the aircraft to be used as a deflected jet experimental aeroplane; as the Nenes had to be positioned sufficiently far forward to allow the deflected thrust point to be reasonably close to the Centre of Mass, large nacelles were needed. The aircraft was also fitted with an F Mk 8 tail unit and additional vertical surfaces on the tailplane. It could be flown at speeds as low as 65 KIAS - presumably at a safe height as without a bang seat life would have been interesting with an engine failure!

The aircraft next to RA490 in safetypee's photo is indeed WG768, the Short SB5 in one of its many configurations. As it's in the low tail post-1954 configuration, I suspect that the photo could well have been taken at the 1955 Royal Aircraft Establishment's 50th anniversary at Farnborough.

Westlands used to have a site at RAF Merryfield (it's now an official gypsy site); nearby were a couple of tunnels under the concrete hardstanding with large 90° ducts at one end, venting to atmosphere at the other. As a small boy, once the RN's Sea Venoms had returned to Yeovilton and the aerodrome virtually abandoned, I explored the tunnels wondering what they'd been used for. Doubtless the def-jet Meteor was positioned over them to test the installation. Pictures exist of RA490 at what is clearly Merryfield (there's a particular type of tree in the background which I well remember!), but I think that the aircraft was flown to RAF Farnborough for trials work, also at RAE Bedford.

safetypee, you had the best answer, so over to you!


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