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dook 30th Oct 2019 15:16

Good afternoon MReyn.

It looks French but might it be British ?

I've looked at Austin but nothing fits.

Do I see forward stagger ?

I wonder if you have nicked this from AQ.

MReyn24050 30th Oct 2019 15:33

Not French or British, no marked forward or rear stagger. Late 20s

dook 30th Oct 2019 15:37

American then ?

MReyn24050 30th Oct 2019 15:55

Nor American. European

dook 30th Oct 2019 16:31

I've looked at Potez and France.

The five cylinder radial is getting to me - I think it may be a Walter.

Any point in going east of Germany ?

MReyn24050 30th Oct 2019 16:37

No not east of east of Germany. Here is another shot:-
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8023d4ace7.jpg

dook 30th Oct 2019 16:57

Can you confirm the engine is a Walter NZ60.

I'm looking at Czechoslovakia because it's possibly an Avia.

MReyn24050 30th Oct 2019 16:58

My information has it as a Siemens SH10

dook 30th Oct 2019 17:11

Blimey - I thought that was a seven cylinder.

MReyn24050 30th Oct 2019 17:17

From Wiki
The Siemens & Halske Sh 10 was developed and built by Berlin based Siemens & Halske in the 1920s, .The five-cylinder engine was developed in 1925 together with the seven- or nine-cylinder models Sh11 and Sh 12 .

dook 30th Oct 2019 18:13

There is information on almost every Siemens engine except the 10. :mad:

The jury is out.

SincoTC 30th Oct 2019 18:32

Good evening Gentlemen, I have a few minutes to spare at the Dog n Parrot (rain stopped walkies)! :)

Nice to see a familiar name posting a challenge! Hello MReyn24050, I can only find a very poor photo, but I'm encouraged to ask if it's the Akaflieg Hannover AFS 1 ??

MReyn24050 30th Oct 2019 18:37

Hi Trevor. You have it. It was registered as D1739 the Baumer AFS1 also called Schnecke' Akaflieg Stuttgart

DaveReidUK 30th Oct 2019 18:40


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10606791)
There is information on almost every Siemens engine except the 10. :mad:

The jury is out.

The jury has returned its verdict: 5-cylinder, 70 hp.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....827ef13efb.jpg

India Four Two 30th Oct 2019 19:20

I echo SincoTC's comment. Welcome back, Mel.

dook 30th Oct 2019 19:25

Lots of old hands here now (sic).

The thread is getting a bit like AQz.

MReyn24050 30th Oct 2019 19:28

Thanks India Four Two

SincoTC 30th Oct 2019 19:36

Thanks Mel, a good challenge!

Away from home at the moment and struggling to find something different :O I don't believe this one actually flew!

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b860ef4587.jpg

dook 30th Oct 2019 19:46

I can well believe that !

At least I have a good site for it.

It was fortuitous when I said "old hands" above.

dook 30th Oct 2019 20:11

www.exoticairplanes.com

Dring Insect Plane.

wub 30th Oct 2019 20:19

Looks like two F117 prototypes have crashed head on

treadigraph 30th Oct 2019 20:27

I think it collected the fence during an attempted take off.

Self loading bear 30th Oct 2019 20:34

I would like to see more of this plane
I have no idea how it looks from the side.

SincoTC 30th Oct 2019 20:38


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10606896)

Dring Insect Plane.

It is indeed the Dring Insect Plane, well found!

" The insect plane, which is really a flying motor car is being prepared for her trials in a clearing in the New Forest . Its inventor is Mr T A Dring , aged 78 , of Poulner , Hampshire . For 25 years he has studied the flight of hovering insects , and is convinced that ordinary aeroplanes are built on the wrong principles . His machine has two sets of rotor vanes , motor driven , each projecting a stream of compressed air under the fuselage . If his theory is correct , expansion of the streams will lift the insect plane . Photo shows the insect plane being prepared for her first flight . 30 April 1934"

However, I do agree with wub's comment that it looks like two F117 prototypes have crashed head on :D

dook has control :ok:

dook 30th Oct 2019 20:38

I don't think there is a side view.

dook 30th Oct 2019 20:44

Thanks TC.

The list of bookmarks on my drive is getting very large.

This one isn't so silly and there are a couple of players here who will get it quickly.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8629b1af97.jpg

Self loading bear 30th Oct 2019 20:50

Ah
From the great times that pilot was still an outdoor profession.
When the skies were clean and sex was dirty.

SincoTC 30th Oct 2019 22:58

Hmm, a folding-wing biplane! Commercial?

Those engines look like Curtiss watercooled V8's, so probably from the USA?

I think I've seen it in the Fright Archives but no more time to look tonight and probably gonna be busy in the morning :*

MReyn24050 30th Oct 2019 23:12

The Barnhart Twin 15 aka Wampus Kat. Is it not?

SincoTC 31st Oct 2019 08:17


Originally Posted by MReyn24050 (Post 10607046)
The Barnhart Twin 15 aka Wampus Kat. Is it not?

I'm sure you're correct there Mel, that's the one I remember in the FA,

https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1922/1922%20-%200020.html

As dook said, not at all silly and even the quirky name is very appropriate for Halloween!! :D

dook 31st Oct 2019 09:27

MReyn gets it with the Wampus Kat.

Over to you.

MReyn24050 31st Oct 2019 11:48

Thanks Dook. Interesting challenge. Try this one
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b19b30d085.jpg

sycamore 31st Oct 2019 12:55

American ,1920s, powered by a Szekely SR-3 radial.....?//

MReyn24050 31st Oct 2019 13:40

Not American and late 1920s.

dook 31st Oct 2019 14:15

'artenoon MR.

German ?

MReyn24050 31st Oct 2019 14:19

Good Afternoon Dook. Yes she was from Germany.

dook 31st Oct 2019 14:36

'spose the engine was as well.

dook 31st Oct 2019 14:55

I don't usually do very long shots but was it from Raab-Katzenstein ?

MReyn24050 31st Oct 2019 15:23

The Engine was of Italian design but the aircraft was not from Raab-Katzenstein

dook 31st Oct 2019 15:41

So was that engine an Anzani?


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