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McClellan AFB Sacramento. (Ca - USA ;))
Nice aerial Graeme, but it was the date what dunnit. By elimination, it seems the only significant B-47 unit still operating in 1967 was the 55th Weather Reconnaissance Squadron with WB-47Es - principally nuclear radiation sampling. BTW the CO was Col Hiram P Bilyeu and they got an Air Force Excellence award that year. LFH |
Well done LFH. :ok:
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Thank you Graeme. I think your flightline is up the top right corner of the aerial. McClellan is now a Coast Guard Air Station.
Here's an interesting one. I guess the photographer didn't want to hang around. http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1369991203 |
This 'airfield' didn't last long.
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Russia? Perhaps Stalingrad? WAG.
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Or maybe somewhere near or on frozen Lake Ladoga during the siege of Leningrad?
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Not Stalingrad or Leningrad or Lake Ladoga. Not Russia, but the chaps "down there" are German. LFH
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Norway????
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Spotttton Dave. :ok:
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Forus, Norway ?
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Not Forus, Brian. Further north. This 'field' never had the same 'substance' or 'foundation' found at places like Forus. Though it was only operational for a month or so during the War, there has been some recent aviation 'activity' here.
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Information is sparse, but could it be Elga?
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... could it be Elga? |
An ice field then?
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As LM says, obviously a frozen lake. Let's start with Lake Hartvigvannet?
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Do you mean Lake Hartvigvann ?
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LM
Most of the references to the JU-52 that sank there refer to it as Lake Hartvigvannet. For example; Junkers Ju.52/3mg4e, 6821, Technikmuseum Speyer Dave |
Dave & David - I think they're all the same lake in different tongues. But Lake Hart **** worrevver is close to Narvik, which is way up north. You're right it's a frozen lake. And similarly, several German aircraft sank through the melting ice at the beginning of the Norwegian part of Operation Weserubung. Similarly, one/some have recently been recovered from this lake and these events have been publicly recorded. I get the impression that most of these frozen lake ops were all "Plan B" or " nur im Notfall verwenden !"
See my reply to TheiC yesterday "... Not Elga, but you're within 100 miles, so you're getting warmer." Call when you need mo' clue. LFH |
How about Lake Svalen/Savalen?
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Not Lake Savalen, Vulcan. Go North.
They used this frozen lake as Plan B when it turned out the target airfield surface was too soft for their "heavy" aircraft. This phase lasted about 14 days til the ice melted. |
Mo' clue -
This makeshift aerodrome commenced ops on 11th April 1940 with 18 JU-52s bringing munitions and spares. A flak perimeter was set up. Within a few days the ice had deteriorated so that ops could only take place early mornings and evenings, but at one time a max of 36 planes were operating from here, plus a few refuelling stops. It was abandoned on 24th April by which time the originally intended airfield at xxxx had been made useable with a timber runway - A number of aircraft had already sunk through the ice or were otherwise left behind. LFH. |
Could it be Jonsvatnet then?
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Well done Vulcan. It is Jonsvatnet. A few miles south of Trondheim (Norway;) ) and the intended local airfield was Vaernes.
The photo came from "Coastal Command" An Air Ministry account of the part played by Coastal Command 1939 - 42. The caption for the photo says - "The frozen lake at Jonsvatnet used by the Germans as a makeshift airfield. A Wellington spotted 22 enemy aircraft on it. As a result the lake was bombed – "with excellent effect." These websites tell most of the story. JU88.net and World War II Aircraft wrecksites in Norway With regard to allied air activity, I note that a Whitley of 77 Squadron did an "armed recce" on 18th April. The reference to a Wellington of 625 Squadron on 22nd is probably the one in the photo caption, except 625 did not form until 1943 with Lancasters, so it could have been one of the 8 Wellington squadrons in 3 Gp. I saw no other reference to any any bombing in my research. FAA Skuas seem to have strafed the place after the birds had flown. The recovered aircraft are in the Norwegian Air Force Museum at Gardermoen. Nacluv, You have Control. |
Thanks, LFH. I was on to the Vaernes track, so it was that or possibly Hommelvik nearby.
Sorry to say that I can't find any good GI-'proof' images, so OH please. |
Very good Vulcan :ok:. Ju-52s on floats at Hommelvik.
Nacluv has declared OH. |
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V long shot............Aden? (Khormaksar)
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sid, you're an excellent sniper :D
Aden 1965 - taken from the Hunter dispersal at RAF Khormaksar You have control |
My sincere apologies been away with work etc. Open house. Thank you. Sid
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I can't find any good GI-'proof' images http://i44.tinypic.com/2czxqc.jpg |
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The nearest P-47D (c/n 339 55690) is apparently now in the Rio de Janeiro Aerospace Museum as #4120. Served with the Brazilian AF as #4184. I don't think Nogales Az or Nogales (Sonora, Mexico) were ever AAF fields. (Nor Shuttle backup landing strips.) LFH
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Evening my Lord. We're in the USA and according to Wiki it had two names, both which I don't see on Mels list.
I can provide an aerial view. :) |
Las Vegas AAF (now Nellis AFB) Nevada, U.S.A.
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Las Vegas AAF (now Nellis AFB) Nevada, U.S.A. |
Thanks mate! Here is the next mystery aerodrome:
http://www.decatur-parks.org/wp-cont...way-Aerial.jpg |
Looking at the construction materials and colour, I'll shoot for the USA.
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Yes. In the U.S.A. The airport is well kept and well planned for the volume and type of operation. Long term car parking is free of charge.
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