Post war
Military ab initio trainer
Single uninjected engine
Tail dragger retractable
One of the countries was British
Dunno!
W

I think this is a cunning one! Could this be a Harvard? The RAF had a couple that had modified cockpits, and were flown by the ETPS at Boscombe Down.
I'll go out on a limb and suggest it is one of those...........

Wunper,

Post war - designed well before, produced during and after

Military ab initio trainer - used by the military, yes, but as an advanced trainer rather than ab-initio, I believe (among other uses)

Single uninjected engine - yes

Tail dragger retractable - no (initially yes) and yes, retractable

One of the countries was British - did I say that? ;)

BSD - not a Harvard.

Mike, not a Miles

Not sure where this fixation with being British (in part or whole) is coming from!

To clarify:

Tail dragger - no (initially yes)

Retractable u/c - yes, retractable

North American T28 Trojan

Agreed Mike.
Just wondered if it was based on the T6 Texan.
Mel

American, no.

Another clue, it's not tandem - it's a 4-seater!

SAAB Safir from the Bestman?

We were informed it once had a tailwheel undercarriage so I am thinking Saab was considering the aircraft's evolution.

"The similarity between the "Safir" and the Bü 181 Bestman is far from just coincident, it can be seen as the "next step" in it's design, the most obvious difference being the retractable tricycle undercarriage. The first prototype took to the air on the 20/11/1945"

Mike and Mel,

Nice thinking, but not correct. You are on the right lines with the "evolution" angle, though.

The item on the left side seems to be an electric variable pitch like one can find on Nord 1000 or 1001( formerly Me 108 )
Lest's say that's one of these birds modified to american standarts.

...in which case it has to be one of the post war Nords, based on the Messerschmitt 108?

If I have to guess, I'll say a Nord 1101.

Nord 1101 was a tricycle and Nord 1000 or 1001 (2 ? ) a tail dragger like the Me 108.

I think Mikl & 682al have it

"SNCAN (Nord) 1001 Pingouin I (Penguin) - The was the first in the Nord 1000 Series which started production in 1945. It was a three-seat version of the Bf 108 built by SNCAN (Nord) in Les Mureaux near Paris replacing the standard Argus engine with the 233 hp (174 kW) Renault 6Q-11 engine.


SNCAN (Nord) 1002 Pingouin II (Penguin) - Similiar to the SNCAN (Nord) 1001 Pingouin but using a Renault 6Q-10 engine of similiar power but providing four-seat accomodation. About 250 Pingouin Is and IIs were built, most of them ending up with the French Armed Services who used them in communication and liaison roles.


SNCAN (Nord) 1100 Noralpha - During 1943-44 Nord built two prototypes of the Messerschmitt Me 208 for the Germans, which differed from the Bf 108 by introducing retractable tricycle landing. Only one servived the war, and it was liberated by the French who redesignated it the sole Nord 1100 Noralpha.


SNCAN (Nord) 1101 Ramier I (Woodpidgeon) - Based on the single captured Me 208 (Nord 1100 Noralpha), the Societé Nationale de Constructions Aeronautiques du Nord (SNCAN) produced post-war the Nord 1101 Ramier I with a Renault 6Q-10 engine."

I flew both of them ,almost fifty years ago, really tricky aeroplanes( specially the" penguin" with this narrow gear track, and the" 30 strokes "gear lever- the Ramier had hydraulic( ? ) OR electric LG )
But both had that funny propeller pitch control and-I keep that for the last- an air bottle for starting the engine !
Better to be lucky at your first attempt !!!
need more than two hands for stating- and in fact- for flying

By the way, I forgot to mention the magnetos LEVER ( yes, lever) on the LH side.

Actor Cliff Robertson had a Nord taildragger (1001 I think) painted in Luftwaffe insignia - It might have been one of those used in "The Longest Day". I saw it at a Pease AFB show about 1970.

Yes indeed, the Nord 1101 Noralpha / Ramier.

"Nephew" of the Bf 108, "cousin" of the Me 208.

Designed in Germany, built in France during but mainly after WW2 and served for many years with the French Air Force as a Communications, Liaison and advanced trainer.

682al got there first.

I'll miss my turn if Mikl would like to put one up, or failing that, anyone else fancy having a go?

Must be Wunper at the oche!

Here's a quick one while we're waiting for Wunper's return:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...nge_/unk29.jpg

Grumman ?

Almost no clues to be had from that pic :*

Nope, not a Grumman.

WW2 Military twin but not confident
Is it a Messerschmitt Bf 110?
W

Correct on the WW2 and military bit. Not the Bf 110.

Maybe Republic? It looks similar to the P47..

Sorry, not a Republic. It's not American.

So:

Single engine
WW2
Not American

Could it be Japanese?

Not Japanese either.

German then because of the efficient panel layout. :8

Nope, not German.

In for a penny despite having no idea whatsoever..

Campini Caproni CC. 2

Not a Caproni.

This is like trying to get blood out of a stone.. :E

Staying with the Italian idea, Reggiane Re 2007

It is a single seater, but not Italian.

So it's not German, Italian or Japanese.

On the Aliied side it isn't American and (I presume) not British.

Is it Polish? No, forget that. Russian?

Neither British, Polish nor Russian.

Mutter, mutter, mutter...

SAAB 21

Nah... not Swedish. :E

Dewoitine D520?

Not the D520, we had it here already.