Very quick Mr Genghis, it is exactly as you said.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...eftsiden3n.jpg

I think it's your go now.

The N3N-3 was No.73 in my logbook, a huge ungainly pussycat of an aeroplane with absolutely no forward view during anything except for level cruise. But, it was a lovely comfortable and truly classic way of getting airborne. Better still, I was being paid for flying it - trying to obtain data to get one onto a (UK) Public Transport CofA (in which we succeeded).

I'm temporarily away from my photo library, so maybe somebody else could jump in whilst I dig something out?

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Ok G If I may?
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...r/Guesswot.jpg

Oops sorry wunper you beat me to it:{
duly deleted!

Cheers Gas Path , this won't take long anyway!!
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de H Moth Minor?

nope its from a slightly earlier era
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DH 53 Humming Bird ?

Hawker Cygnet ??

Cringe you are correct with the Lympne trials DH53 Humming bird
Don't know who is in the chair now as Genghis has a credit as does Gas path
So I suggest whomever is quickest on the draw for the challenge.

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http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...DH53Lympne.jpg

Ok I'll jump in with an easy one..........
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...h/try_this.jpg

A PQ-14 with the remote control auto-pilot installed?

'fraid not con:}

Looks like a jet trainer - tandem - with some test instrumentation on board.

Is it an Aermacchi MB326M Impala?

Or a WSK TS 11 bis DF Iskra

It looks a bit like an L29 (that's Aero L-29 Delfin)

Even looks a bit like a prototype / research Gnat!

Wasn't the prototype Gnat called the Midge?

My money is on Saab, I reckon he's got it, but not with the Gnat. Don't the instruments look Soviet bloc type? Also, is that an accelerometer just below the glareshield which registers -4 to +12? That would be fun!

Often referred to as the prototype Gnat but perhaps it should be known as the fore runner of Gnat.
With compliments to www.fags.org.
"The Gnat was the creation of W.E.W. "Teddy" Petter, a British aircraft designer who had gained wide recognition for his design of the English Electric Canberra bomber and other aircraft. Petter had grown suspicious of the trend towards bigger and more expensive combat aircraft, and he felt that a small, simple fighter would offer the advantages of low purchase and operational costs. New lightweight turbojet engines were being developed that would be able to power such small fighters.
W E W Petter the designer of the Canberra bomber was unable to pursue this vision at English Electric, so he left to become managing director of Folland Aircraft. In 1951, using company funds, he began work on his lightweight fighter concept, which he designated the "Fo-141 Gnat". The Gnat was to be powered by a Bristol BE-22 Saturn turbojet with 16.9 kN (1,724 kg / 3,800 lb) thrust.
However, the Saturn was cancelled, and so Petter's unarmed proof-of-concept prototype for the Gnat was powered by the less powerful Armstrong Siddeley Viper 101 with 7.3 kN (744 kg / 1,640 lb) thrust. A prototype was designated the "Fo-139 Midge". The Midge first flew on 11 August 1954 with Teddy Tennant at the controls, and proved to be an excellent aircraft.
The Midge was evaluated by pilots from Canada, India, Jordan, New Zealand, and the US Air Force, and was almost universally praised. The Midge had performed a total of 220 flights when it was destroyed in a fatal crash on 26 September 1955, with a Swiss pilot at the controls.
However, the Midge had demonstrated that Petter's lightweight fighter concept had much going for it. Folland went on to develop a full-scale Gnat prototype, also using company funds.
The full-scale aircraft, designated the "Fo-145 Gnat", performed its initial flight on 18 July 1955, again with Tennant at the controls. It was very similar to the Midge, but had a maximum takeoff weight about twice as large. It was powered by a preproduction Bristol Orpheus turbojet with 14.6 kN (1,490 kg / 3,285 lb) thrust."

I reckon it's an early Gnat fitted with test equipment.

The / A Midge is there to be seen in the Hall of Aviation in Southampton, one of my favourite museums.

The Gnat design was eventually sold to Hindustan Aeronautics who developed it into the Ajeet, which starred in "Hot-Shots", the Top-Gun lampoon.

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Whilst we're waiting to find out if that's a Gnat, Midge, or some other small biting insect, this I hope might be reasonably difficult...

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...tos/img013.jpg

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Genghis, is it a FRED?

Nope, but I can see why you'd think it might be.

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A Tiger Cub microlight?

Is it one of the more modern versions of the Flying Flea?
http://www.flyingflea.org/images/mignet.gif
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682, nope, Wunper, warm.

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Is it a high-wing or parasol monoplane?

It looks like an in-line engine - is it British? Is it as old as it looks - 1920/30?

Genghis - How about a Currie Wot? Bit of a guess though as I'm not sure strut arrangement around the cockpit is quite right.

Saab, BSD wrong on all counts (apart from being correct that there's something different about the strut arrangement from a Currie Wot, and this particular example had an in-line engine).

The actual aeroplane is post-war, but derived from a pre WW2 design which had a small, but interesting part to play in that conflict.

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Platzer Kiebitz B-450

Nope,

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An HM290 or HM293 n'est pas?
http://www.flyingflea.org/images/hm290.jpg

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Sorry for the delay, work got in the way:hmm: Anyway Saab Dastard takes the honours 'twas indeed an Iskra TS-11:ok:

Actually the PZL variety

Wunper T'was indeed, an HM293.

Somewhere or other I posted my notes on flying it a while ago. Lovely little aeroplane.

6 hours and 5 minutes, a new record for me I think :cool:

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Agreed it was a good challenge. As I understand it it is Saab Dastard's turn to submit the next challenge with Wunper one in the spout so to speak.

Genghis, can you honestly tell me that isn't a high-wing or parasol monoplane - albeit with an oversize horizontal stabilizer? ;)

Not that I begrudge you the 6 hours or anything :)

Sorry for the scattergun approach Gas Path - it was a sort of thinking aloud post!

Here's one to start the weekend with - it isn't a great photo, as it's a scan of a B&W original, reduced to fit.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...t/mystery9.jpg

No, it's an staggered biplane with an all-flying forward wing.

Anyhow, if you throw that many suggestions in one post, you can hardly expect anybody to be too helpful :E


As for yours, it's not the Bristol 138 is it?


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I understand the original Fleas had a dangerous mode (I think if dived too fast) which could not be controlled by the wire foreplane pitch control which is why the modern ones have push rod foreplane pitch controls.
I have a copy of the original Henri Mignet book
It is dedicated
It has this rather touching epilogue with an excellent third paragraph and an epic final sentence.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...per/Mignet.jpg

Hiya G - no it's not a Bristol.

One of Messrs Blackburn's offerings?

Nor Blackburn...

It has dual nationality (or split personality!)