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Mr_Grubby 17th Nov 2005 09:30

Italian maybe ?

Reggiane 2000 Falco.



Clint.

PPRuNe Radar 17th Nov 2005 09:31

Lucky it's an easy one .... :rolleyes: :p

Have looked at all the various countries now excluded. Tried the UK, France, Italy, Australia, Romania, Sweden, Germany and so on.

Still stumped (but might have overlooked it in my searches !!).

A Finnish Myrsky as a stab in the dark ??

cringe 17th Nov 2005 09:35

Clint, it's not Italian.

PPRuNe Radar, are you sure you checked all the countries you listed ? :) Some have been excluded by now, but not all...

It didn't seem difficult to me because I stumbled upon it a few times before, while checking out pics for this thread.

Not a Myrsky nor Finnish.

cringe 17th Nov 2005 09:51

Neither French nor Australian.

It shares its designation with another aircraft we had on this quiz.
Three survivors out of nearly 200.

MReyn24050 17th Nov 2005 10:18

Clutching at straws, Fokker DXX1?

cringe 17th Nov 2005 10:21

Nah. Radar named the correct country in his post.

MReyn24050 17th Nov 2005 10:36

Romanian IAR-80?

I think MIke has it. Asymmetric cockpit, looking at the gunsight and cockpit combing that looks right.

cringe 17th Nov 2005 10:41

Swedish! Not a Saab 17 though.

PPRuNe Radar 17th Nov 2005 10:50

FFVS J22 then :)

I definitely DID overlook that one !!! Never heard of it before !!

http://www.canit.se/~griffon/aviatio...vmus96/j22.jpg

MReyn24050 17th Nov 2005 10:54

RADAR has it, well I learnt something today, thanks Cringe. I didnt know the aircraft existed.

cringe 17th Nov 2005 10:55

Finally! Well done. Over to you, PPRuNe Radar.

PS: Sorry, I didn't mean to mislead with the "not too hard" comment. :O

Here's a link to more cockpit photos of the J22:
http://ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/20...ail_j22_04.htm

cringe 17th Nov 2005 11:06

Hey, don't blame me too much, after all I'm no expert! :) The pics were easy to find, once you knew the type existed.

PPRuNe Radar 17th Nov 2005 11:10

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...lying/easy.jpg

Not sure it's harder than the J-22 though ;)

Tim Inder 17th Nov 2005 11:23

Is it a Caudron GIII by any chance?

PPRuNe Radar 17th Nov 2005 11:27

Mais oui Tim !! :ok:

JDK 17th Nov 2005 11:28

Definitely a Caudron - ummm - Caudron G.3- perhaps in the Musee de l'Air?

Regarding the FFVS J-22 - ARGH! I KNEW I'd kick myself. Rats, rats, rats.

The Boomerang guess wasn't so far off - both aircraft were indigenous designs to get a single seat fighter into action by isolated countries, taking the biggest engine available and from need to flight as quickly as possible. The engine on the FFVS was an unlicensed copy of a P&W Twin Wasp (and the Boomerang used the (legitimate) Twin Wasp as well) but Sweden paid royalties post-war for the use of the design. Fascinating fighter.

Irish Steve 17th Nov 2005 22:44

thread drift
 
Fascinating thread, and worth some time to read.

Gentle warning to anyone thinking of downloading the mpg file of the Fairey Rotodyne that was mentioned and linked a few days ago.

If you don't have broadband, forget it, the mpg is over 80 Meg, so even on broadband, it's going to take a few minutes to get it.

Talk about nostalgia, I can remember when Airfix made a plastic model kit of the rotodyne. It was a pig to assemble, the rotor was so large even in a scale model, glueing it together required a lot of support in the right places to make sure it was the right shape :O

Then there were the doors at the back that were not dissimilar the Bristol Freighter concept.

Just played it, a touch under 5 minutes, and worth the view just for the nostalgia. If nothing else, I reckon the trees in the landing zone were happy it didn't go into production, the wash off the rotor looks like it was pretty powerful :O

Another UK project that worked, but never saw commercial service. Such has been the experience of too much of the UK aviation industry.

BEagle 17th Nov 2005 23:03

Ah yes - that Airfix rotorhead was a right so-and-so. Too much cement and the blade shafts became too soft - the whole thing just drooped and that was that.

The rear doors didn't fit particularly well either!

Irish Steve 17th Nov 2005 23:12


Ah yes - that Airfix rotorhead was a right so-and-so. Too much cement and the blade shafts became too soft - the whole thing just drooped and that was that.

The rear doors didn't fit particularly well either!
They were the days.

The real fun was in getting things that Airfix didn't intend to move to work the way they were supposed to :O

I'm giving my age away now, more nostalgia, I spent HOURS replicating the paint scheme of Westpoint Airlines, or aviation, depending on when it was photographed, on the airfix DC3. It was authentic, I managed to "persuade" one of the staff at the airline to "find" me a small quantity of "their" paint. Never did find an airfix or similar model of the Rapide, they looked nice too.

The most interesting aspect of this thread is that despite the concept of "standardisation", it's amazing to see just how different the layouts of cockpits are.

jabberwok 18th Nov 2005 04:05

It could have been different...
http://www.style-magic.com/rotodyne/...Been_small.jpg


See Ian Hay's web page at http://www.style-magic.com/rotodyne/


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