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MReyn24050 10th Mar 2006 16:07

The rear seat and console of the Grob Twin Astir or to be more precise Grob G-103A Twin II Acro?

Tim Inder 11th Mar 2006 16:16

Sorry, you're wrong!

MReyn24050 11th Mar 2006 16:20

OK thanks. Will withdraw my picture. It is a glider though? How about the Grob G-103SL Twin self launcher?

cringe 11th Mar 2006 17:44

Grob G-103 Twin Astir / Viking TX.1 ?

MReyn24050 11th Mar 2006 18:52

Hi Cringe. You may well be correct with the Viking TX1. I proposed the Grob Twin Astir but Tim seems to be asking for the exact version, however with that photograph it is a guessing game.
Mel

jabberwok 11th Mar 2006 19:07

Suggest we move on whilst waiting for Tim to respond?

MReyn24050 11th Mar 2006 19:17

Jabberwok
I agree. Time marches on. I am convinced it is a Grob Twin as the console matches similar ones to the Grob G-103s on Airliners.net but what version only Tim knows.
Mel

cringe 11th Mar 2006 19:45

Hi Mel,

Tim's pic can be found here:
http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/hangar/...gs/gliding.htm

Could you please post the next challenge, since you did all the work by suggesting a Grob G-103 ? :)

MReyn24050 11th Mar 2006 20:10

cringe
Many thanks. I did think that Tim was being a little pedantic considering how small the photograph was. However I am sure this will be solved in a very short time.
Mel
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...kpitquiz74.jpg

The Invisible Cat 11th Mar 2006 20:39

The RAF Vikings TX1 is indeed a Grob G103 II Acro (wing planform similar to the I, whereas the fuselage is similar to the III) produced by Slingsby under licence from Grob. So MReyn24050 is technically right, but pedantically speaking cringe has it.

OT, one is appalled to see that the RAF does not care much about the glider manufacturers' recommendations about anti-collision painting :

Because of the increased temperatures caused by colors other than white, only areas not subject to vertical sunshine and areas with high safety factors can be painted in safety paint.
One has to have sunshine and it must be vertical, though :rolleyes:

Mr_Grubby 11th Mar 2006 20:54

De Hav. Hornet ?

C.

The Invisible Cat 11th Mar 2006 21:12

Grumman F7F Tigercat ?

MReyn24050 11th Mar 2006 22:11

The Invisible Cat & Mr_Grubby.

Sorry neither Grumman F7F Tigercat nor De Hav. Hornet.

However Invisible Cat from the information supplied by cringe I agree it was the RAF version and cringe was correct. But without access to that information it was not possible to determine the precise version of the aircraft type from the information I was able to access it was a Grob G-103. As far as I am concerned cringe gets the honours.

682al 11th Mar 2006 22:57

Whirlwind, but Ithought it had already been done?

MReyn24050 11th Mar 2006 23:32

682al
You are correct on both counts. I really should check my own list it was last presented on the 31st October 05 by none other than Tim Inder. I do apologise please present a new challenge. I will go to bed. :ugh:
Mel

MReyn24050 12th Mar 2006 07:57

Well to keep things moving I present this one in place of the duplication. I am 100% positive this has not been used before.
Mel
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...kpitquiz72.jpg

cringe 12th Mar 2006 09:08

AW Albemarle ?

MReyn24050 12th Mar 2006 09:51

Cringe

It is the right answer. Well done indeed. You have control

Mel

cringe 12th Mar 2006 10:17

Thans, Mel. Try this one next:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...nge_/unk33.jpg

MReyn24050 12th Mar 2006 12:32

Cringe
The control yoke is similar to a Bristol one but I do not think it is a Bristol Aircraft. The nose glazing does not match either. I would go for a twin engined light bomber WWII era so I will go for the Martin Maryland as I do not think it is Japanese or German.
Mel


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