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Old 25th May 2021, 04:41
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214 (FMS) Squadron Chedburgh 1943. Based here October 1942 - December 1943. A period when they suffered their heaviest losses. Photo credit Dave Wallace son of Flt Lt A.C. Wallace via 214 Squadron website. https://www.214squadron.org.uk/

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Would that be a 214 Sqn Stirling?
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Ultor in umbris - Check badge !
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Stirling HCU Landing Accident 1944 - no casualties. Photo credit New Zealand Bomber Command Association.

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Chedburgh? I had thought of that previously but according to 214 history they had moved out before your July 44 date to be replaced by 1653 HCU?

p.s. Does dawn come early in Norfolk these days?

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Bravo Max Tow - Chedburgh, Suffolk it is. I'll put some pictures on.
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Pages from Flying Officer Terry Ford's (75 Squadron) Album. 1653 HCU Chedburgh. Photo credit University of Lincoln IBCC Archive.




218 Squadron Chedburgh December 1944-August 1945




Looking towards the threshold to R/W 23. Photo credit ukairfieldsandairports website.


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Great photos, thanks!
OH to give someone else a chance. If not, I'll post something at 1100Z
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Thanks Max - couldn't sleep.
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Try this one...


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Originally Posted by OUAQUKGF Ops
I think my remarks about 692 Squadron and Graveley better be disregarded as irrelevant. A small visual clue for you all.

Looks like a Hudson.
The reason I suggested Gravely was because I identified the line to the left of the runway as possbly being FIDO and the taxiway pattern was similar to Gravely.
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Interesting challenge in the NEW 4th Age of Which Aerodrome. Dc-3, some small aircraft and a proper PanAm job. the roof of the hangar is rather manky TBH - For some reason Canada popped into my mind?
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Wild, wild shot but reminiscent of old moth eaten hangers left of 10L threshold, as it was then, at Heathrow. Remember Pan Am 707s in there early 70s
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Looks like a Bavaria Herald in the foreground, with an (ex-Hamble?) Apache and a Morava in the hangar with the DC-3. Maybe Field's at East Midlands?
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Sorry, not EMA,LHR or even Canada.
Regulars of the previous "Which Aerodrome Mk III"may recall a recent challenge to find an airfield with a former motor racing track. This place shares that feature, albeit briefly. Going back a few more years from the original photo:


1950




1950


1950s


1950


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Germany perhaps?
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Milan - Malpensa ?
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Yes to Allan and...


..a DH nose for Mr Lupton...



...and another Hatfield nose (ish) carrying a rocket man home



A visitor from the early 30s, some of whose passengers were, in a very real sense, at the leading edge of air travel...


and another visitor from the late 30s, of great consequence

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Well,the car is an AFM driven by it`s designer Alexander von Falkenhausen,also chief engineer for BMW vehicles during WW2,racing at Munich-Riem Airfield in 1949. The m/cycle may be an NSU modified scooter....

OH if correct
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Munich Riem it is, despite the deliberate mis-steer of using Pan Am rather than LH images!

The Herald in the first photo was correctly spotted as op by Bavaria.

Part of the Riem perimeter was used for motor cycle and F2 car racing between 1949 and 1951. The Pan Am Connie was on its first visit to the airport in 1950 after post-war repairs. The Comet was United Arab SU-ALE after an overrun in Feb 1970 and the SAS Caravelle was bringing Wernher von Braun on a visit back home in 1960. The Lockheed Electra was of course G-AEPR arriving with Neville Chamberlain in Sep 1938.

The Junkers G.38 was an interesting beast - only 2 built and used by Lufthansa through the 30s. The second one, D2500/D-APIS, shown at Munich, carried 34 passengers including 6 in the wing roots - by all accounts, a very noisy and uncomfortable place to be. This particular aircraft was apparently destroyed in Athens by RAF bombers in 1941. The Japanese built 6 more as the Mitsubishi Ki-20 bomber.

Riem has long since closed but the iconic tall red tower survives in the exhibition grounds together with a token strip of runway.


Motor racing 1949-51


Junkers G.38 with seating in wing leading edge


SU-ALE written-off Feb 70


The old tower now "Brainlab", an exhibition/function centre


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