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Old 15th Apr 2021, 00:14
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The "Helouan" HA-300 according to William Green back in 1964.
However, Wiki calls it "Helwan."....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helwan_HA-300
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Old 15th Apr 2021, 07:05
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Originally Posted by Noyade View Post
The "Helouan" HA-300 according to William Green back in 1964.
However, Wiki calls it "Helwan."....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helwan_HA-300
Different transcriptions of the Egyptian place name. I guess the -ou- version is a French transcription, which would figure with its being apparently the one used earlier in the Anglophone world, as in this caption of WW1 Australian troops in Egypt https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/P01824.001
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Old 15th Apr 2021, 10:00
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Ok - Noyade has it

It was really the last proper Messerschmidt I guess - but they stopped development as the Israelis kept killing the German engineers........
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Old 16th Apr 2021, 04:10
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Thanks A56.

More artwork...




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Old 16th Apr 2021, 07:51
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Interesting.... radial engines - but what is sticking out to starboard just above the tailplane?

Are we talking 1939-45 here?
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Old 16th Apr 2021, 10:20
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Japanese ?
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Old 16th Apr 2021, 14:51
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I think it might be a Potez 631?
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Old 17th Apr 2021, 05:15
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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
but what is sticking out to starboard just above the tailplane?
I believe it's an aerial mast - positioned so the dorsal gunner doesn't shoot it off.

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Are we talking 1939-45 here?
Yes - first flight 1941.

Not the Potez 631.
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Old 17th Apr 2021, 05:16
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Originally Posted by ex82watcher View Post
Japanese ?
Not Japanese.
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Old 18th Apr 2021, 03:49
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I do believe it is the CANSO FC.20bis.
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Old 18th Apr 2021, 05:43
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Originally Posted by FlightlessParrot View Post
I do believe it is the CANSO FC.20bis.
That's him FP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CANSA_FC.20



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Old 18th Apr 2021, 10:39
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Sorry for the typo on the CANSA.

This one is a replica:


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Old 18th Apr 2021, 12:35
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I think it's Richard Pearse’s monoplane - the replica is in a museum in South Canterbury?

http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/models/...ngMachine.html



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Old 19th Apr 2021, 12:50
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I think it's Richard Pearse’s monoplane - the replica is in a museum in South Canterbury?

Pearse Flying Machine | Aircraft |
Asturias is right: Pearse's machine, in all its hypothetical, reconstructed, powered, airborne, but not controlled bamboo splendour.
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Old 19th Apr 2021, 16:30
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Remembered an article I read about in last time I was though New Zealand.... otherwise it would have been a very long struggle!!

here's another one that didn't bother too many spotters




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Old 21st Apr 2021, 07:45
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I think it was ordered and then cancelled (reasons unknown) after about 30 built
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Old 21st Apr 2021, 09:06
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I was thinking USSR but even went as far as China and Brazil - with no luck. The problem for me, was I kept thinking a curved windscreen was immediately in front of that square frame, making it a very small machine.
It isn't.

It's the Yatsenko I-28. Thanks for the nose shot!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yatsenko_I-28
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Old 22nd Apr 2021, 07:24
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I thought clipping the picture where I did might lead people somewhat astray... but on here you have to try SO hard

Yes it's the Yatsenko - never found out why it never went into service in numbers - it was probably a decision to concentrate on what they had rather than add another type to the production line early in the war - also haven't found a decent picture of it in the air..

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Old 22nd Apr 2021, 23:34
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Thanks A56. Good challenge - had me dancing around the bookshelves.
But I'll make it OPEN HOUSE for the time being.
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