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Old 28th Nov 2022, 17:45
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Indeed.
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Old 29th Nov 2022, 08:51
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Blowing up the picture it looks like it's maybe a twin jet of some sort (tho only a basic set of dials)

the total lack of design ergonomics suggests pre-1955?
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Old 29th Nov 2022, 11:57
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Both correct.
Only two built.
Unusual configuration.
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Old 30th Nov 2022, 09:55
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Ahhh - now THAT helps!

SNCASE Grognard - quite unusual!!

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Old 30th Nov 2022, 23:11
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You never cease to astound me!
How the digamma did you ever get that?
Correct of course, the French - configuration at least - comparison to the Lightining, but as ever if it was said if it looks right....this one wasn't a contender.



Talk about the Hunchback but please not on my patch!

And whatever was it about with those enormous wheels?
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Old 1st Dec 2022, 09:47
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It was European and I was pretty sure it wasn't British - it didn't look Russian or E European. Which left France, maybe Italy or Sweden as the Spanish couldn't source anything like that from the UK or USA until the '60's

It was a twin jet (which was unusual pre 1955) and it was "Unconventional" - so Sweden or France. They built 2 (that was a major help!). Lots of scouring of old books and the internet but once I saw the picture it was easy to find a picture of the cockpit - and that awful handwheel on the port side of the cockpit = BINGO!

https://www.militaryfactory.com/airc...rcraft_id=1498 is a good source for the program

bit of a dog but tested a lot of future technology

OH I'm afraid!







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Old 1st Dec 2022, 16:13
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"The cockpit did away with a traditional control column and flightstick, "elbow controling" being used to free up forward vision."

I wish they'd elaborate on that - I can't find any info on it at all. Sounds fascinating.
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Old 2nd Dec 2022, 09:38
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maybe those two funnelly looking devices like speaking tubes to the left of THE WHEEL - looks like you could press your elbow into one or the other
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Old 2nd Dec 2022, 16:18
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Think it is a sidestick and armrest inboard of the wheel,and possibly another on right side..
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Old 9th Dec 2022, 00:45
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More armrests...



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Old 10th Dec 2022, 21:03
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I think it is this one.
But cockpit side doesn’t match


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Old 11th Dec 2022, 06:14
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Hi Bear. I believe it is what you think it is - name it and it's all yours.
My forward shot...



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Old 12th Dec 2022, 04:57
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Few more clues then.
Wiki says 580 built.
Underpowered and unpopular.
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Old 12th Dec 2022, 08:37
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Looks like a Blenheim - but not sure what Mark
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Old 12th Dec 2022, 11:16
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I would have guessed a Blenheim, but given the comments in 3233 it is a Botha.

Test pilot report - this a/c is very difficult to get into, and it should have been made impossible.

No pictures to post myself so open house.
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Old 12th Dec 2022, 19:10
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Botha it is.
We have Open House.
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Old 13th Dec 2022, 02:30
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A long way from the Botha in almost all respects:



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Old 13th Dec 2022, 11:13
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General Aircraft Hamilcar?
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Old 13th Dec 2022, 19:02
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And even I didn’t recognize it
What Cockpit?
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Old 13th Dec 2022, 21:30
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Open House if I’m correct please.
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