Victor Airborne (Merged)
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PPRuNe has suffered some considerable technical glitches
VP, sheer vulgar curiosity, do you still log the time in the Victor? Incidentally from one of those videos, I make it exactly 10 seconds actually airborne - a lot of decision making and reaction in a very short space of time!
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Hello again, Just got back here after a spell away. Will respond to earlier questions again when I get a quiet spell. I did not know about the technical glitches, but that explains why my page of writing just vanished!! Yes, I made it 10 seconds too!! Yes, I will put it in my log book!! And yes, a lot of thoughts, decisions, actions, and panic in a very short space of time!!! Bob
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Congrats.
I guess that vindicates the decision to dump it back onto the ground rather than do a circuit - can't imagine if you'd decided to go around that they'd be so relaxed.
Have they requested to see evidence of steps that'll be taken to ensure it doesn't happen again? I guess you'll have a few extra items on the pre-run risk assessment now.
I guess that vindicates the decision to dump it back onto the ground rather than do a circuit - can't imagine if you'd decided to go around that they'd be so relaxed.
Have they requested to see evidence of steps that'll be taken to ensure it doesn't happen again? I guess you'll have a few extra items on the pre-run risk assessment now.
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Well that is the latest run with the Victor over, and now 715 is safely put to rest for the Winter! Apart from the Bruntingthorpe crew, I must say a very big thank you to Andre and Ollie from 231 at Elvington, together with Barry, who all pitched in to get 715 preped for the run in good time. Unfortunately, the Comet failed to start, and this rather blocked the Victor taxy plan. Then the BBMF were meant to flypast, and so the Victor had to hold for some 25 minutes waiting for the flypast - which in the end did not happen! So, sorry to all the people who stood in the rain waiting for something to happen!! I hope the wait was worth it to see 715 doing its thing, safely on the ground this time!!
The aircraft AAPP is running well after a major effort to fix the starter motor at the last minute. The engines are all running well, but there is probably a fault with one of the fuel pressure warning sensors. Hydraulics are perfect - rather amazing when you consider all the problems with peaking pumps in the early days ... and 715 sits there with no pressure on the seals for months on end. One rudder PFCU has failed, and one alternator is intermittent, but apart from that, it was a good run.
Hopefully, the aircraft will go into the hangar for the winter months to be repainted, and this will give us the chance to tidy up many of the minor problems: fuel gauging, intercom and radio, sticky contactors, corroded switches, trim indications etc etc. Anyone who can help with these activities, please let us know as we need more experienced hands to keep things going.
Moderator. The Vulcan community have a long thread running under "Did you ever fly the Vulcan". How about merging this into "Were you ever in the Victor Force?" Just a thought as I have had so many contacts from ex-Victor people since May.
Rgds to all. Bob
The aircraft AAPP is running well after a major effort to fix the starter motor at the last minute. The engines are all running well, but there is probably a fault with one of the fuel pressure warning sensors. Hydraulics are perfect - rather amazing when you consider all the problems with peaking pumps in the early days ... and 715 sits there with no pressure on the seals for months on end. One rudder PFCU has failed, and one alternator is intermittent, but apart from that, it was a good run.
Hopefully, the aircraft will go into the hangar for the winter months to be repainted, and this will give us the chance to tidy up many of the minor problems: fuel gauging, intercom and radio, sticky contactors, corroded switches, trim indications etc etc. Anyone who can help with these activities, please let us know as we need more experienced hands to keep things going.
Moderator. The Vulcan community have a long thread running under "Did you ever fly the Vulcan". How about merging this into "Were you ever in the Victor Force?" Just a thought as I have had so many contacts from ex-Victor people since May.
Rgds to all. Bob
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Better yet, Bob. Why don't you start one. It will be met with more than a little enthusiasm I am certain.
Merging two very different aeroplanes would not be a good idea. (edit)
Thanks for your inputs, most interesting.
Merging two very different aeroplanes would not be a good idea. (edit)
Thanks for your inputs, most interesting.
Considering it's nearly 6 years since I started the 'Did You Fly The Vulcan??' thread, one would have thought that any Victor people with similar interests would have started a similar thread by now....
But there again, they always were rather 'second division'...
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I don't agree with merging Vulcan and Victor threads; those who were condemned to fly Fred's bent wing thing should start their own thread!
Vive la difference!!
*As Bob will undoubtedly realise, this is only V-force banter!
But there again, they always were rather 'second division'...
*I don't agree with merging Vulcan and Victor threads; those who were condemned to fly Fred's bent wing thing should start their own thread!
Vive la difference!!
*As Bob will undoubtedly realise, this is only V-force banter!
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PPRuNe Pop and BEagle are of course totally right.
PLEASE don't merge the Vulcan thread and any future Victor thread.
I'll be a very happy subscriber to both, but after all they ARE two quite different stories!
CJ
PLEASE don't merge the Vulcan thread and any future Victor thread.
I'll be a very happy subscriber to both, but after all they ARE two quite different stories!
CJ
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Not that I can count myself as one of your number....and I take my hat off to you all, But...
Which one remained in service longest Last man standing and all that
Too valued asset to have it using fatigue life "poling" around at airshows
Tin hat on
Which one remained in service longest
Last man standing and all thatToo valued asset to have it using fatigue life "poling" around at airshows
Tin hat on
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It was indeed! had it not been for the "bent wing thingies" then the Aluminium overcast wouldnt have been able to visit the Falklands to largely miss the runway (not stirring honest!)
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I suppose all the ancients already know the answer to that one.....
Had they tried to put all the 21 bombs on the runway, there would have been a very high chance of 21 holes just next to the runway....
Crossing at a slight angle vastly increased the chance of at least a few hitting the runway, even if you had less control over where exactly along the runway they hit.
And a few was all it needed.
CJ
Had they tried to put all the 21 bombs on the runway, there would have been a very high chance of 21 holes just next to the runway....
Crossing at a slight angle vastly increased the chance of at least a few hitting the runway, even if you had less control over where exactly along the runway they hit.
And a few was all it needed.
CJ
Good job I wasnt nav radar on that bomb run. At Lindholme I set up something of a record with a bomb error of 9 miles, having attacked a reservoir dam in the wrong valley! Had to be included with my other results which meant my average score was something less than impressive! Ensured my posting to tankers though, for which I was eternally grateful.
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"Good job I wasnt nav radar on that bomb run. At Lindholme I set up something of a record with a bomb error of 9 miles, having attacked a reservoir dam in the wrong valley! Had to be included with my other results which meant my average score was something less than impressive! Ensured my posting to tankers though, for which I was eternally grateful. "
Close .................but beaten by Vulcan
I was stationed at Cowden AWR in the early eighties when a Vulcan was tasked for an FRA on Target 8 (the barge) called in and cleared Hot...called off wet, we called no spot........
Meanwhile we receive a call from Donna Nook (next range down south) asked if we had a Vulcan booked in for our Barge Target mentioned affirmative...they then asked did we want the score
Gave him 30miles @ 6
VEEPS
"Good job I wasnt nav radar on that bomb run. At Lindholme I set up something of a record with a bomb error of 9 miles, having attacked a reservoir dam in the wrong valley! Had to be included with my other results which meant my average score was something less than impressive! Ensured my posting to tankers though, for which I was eternally grateful. "
Close .................but beaten by Vulcan
I was stationed at Cowden AWR in the early eighties when a Vulcan was tasked for an FRA on Target 8 (the barge) called in and cleared Hot...called off wet, we called no spot........
Meanwhile we receive a call from Donna Nook (next range down south) asked if we had a Vulcan booked in for our Barge Target mentioned affirmative...they then asked did we want the score
Gave him 30miles @ 6
VEEPS
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I suppose all the ancients already know the answer to that one.....
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It seems there was a little more than meets the eye in Bob's story.
Today in the Mail.
Hero pilot averted air show disaster after co-pilot hit throttle of giant bomber by mistake | Mail Online
Well done indeed Bob. For one 'orrible minute'..............etc eh.
Today in the Mail.
Hero pilot averted air show disaster after co-pilot hit throttle of giant bomber by mistake | Mail Online
Well done indeed Bob. For one 'orrible minute'..............etc eh.
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A tale of Derring-do indeed. Well done, Bob.
Nice comment in the 'have your say' bit at the bottom:
Bob - had any phone calls yet?
Nice comment in the 'have your say' bit at the bottom:
Now that Mr. Prothero and his colleague have inadvertently discovered that the thing is still airworthy, how long will it be before Bob Ainsworth deploys it - and them - to Afghanistan? After all, needs must, credit crunch and all that...