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Old 8th Sep 2009, 18:04
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Heads up for News at Ten tonight

First the Daily Mail, now ITN have got hold of it. The clip which has already been posted on here will be shown on News at Ten tonight, accompanied, no doubt, by the same tosh that got printed in the Daily Mail (not that I disagree with the hero bit, Bob! ). How come these guys have taken so long to latch on to this - has someone been doing some shrewd negotiations on royalties?
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Old 8th Sep 2009, 18:05
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Didn't like that comment by the ''A330'' Capt, saying that they were committed & shouldv'e flown a circuit.

Vic pilot Bob's quite clearly explained the dodgyness (sorry) of that idea with that airframe. And the results bear out his decision don't they. No injuries, no wrecked classic A/C.
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Old 8th Sep 2009, 20:03
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Oh dear.
Now Joe Public is going to stick his stupid oar in.

That so-called "A-330 Captain" should have known better.

And of course Joe Press did a great job..... 150 ft height.... landed in "a field".

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Old 8th Sep 2009, 22:32
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The News at Ten report mentioned that an investigation had been carried out into the incident and a report published (as far as I can remember).

No sign of owt on the AAIB website. Anyone know who investigated and where to find the report?
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Old 8th Sep 2009, 23:01
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Originally Posted by Super VC-10
The News at Ten report mentioned that an investigation had been carried out into the incident and a report published (as far as I can remember).
No sign of owt on the AAIB website. Anyone know who investigated and where to find the report?
AFAIK, the CAA looked into the matter, and concluded there was "no case to answer", which was reported at least here. Some letters were undoubtedly exchanged, but otherwise I suppose the "report published" is just ITN journalese.

It was an unfortunate occurrence, very well handled, and I think most of us had a mixed moment of "OMG" and "WOW". Can't we leave it at that, and tell the gutter press to f*ck off, for once?

CJ

PS: And yes, crikey, I admit that when seeing Teasin' Tina show us for a moment she still could fly, it was something special. It made one wish for a "Victor To The Sky".
Yes, I know ... XH558 was the far more obvious choice for at least one return-to-flight.
I think it's unlikely that such an endeavour will ever be repeated.
Wouldn't it be great, though....
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 05:33
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Christiaan J,

I asked about the report because if one had been published it would perhaps give a fuller understanding of why the event happened, and what had been learnt from the incident. I'd hardly call ITN "gutter press" though.
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 06:58
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I'd hardly call ITN "gutter press" though.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck..............
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 07:13
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September 7:
A spokesman for the CAA said
“The CAA investigation centred upon possible breaches of Air Navigation legislation including the Air Navigation Order 2005 and the CAA Act 1982. Article 148 of the Air Navigation Order states that ‘should it be determined that the offence was not avoidable by the exercise of reasonable care by that person the act or omission shall be deemed not to be a contravention by that person of that provision’.

Therefore, after the investigation was concluded, the CAA did not consider that any prosecution was warranted.

Separately, the management of Bruntingthorpe aerodrome has taken the incident very seriously and will incorporate all the lessons learnt.

The CAA now considers this matter closed.”
Sensible decision by the CAA.


No sign of owt on the AAIB website.
Perhaps the AAIB didn't consider the incident merited the use of time and resources?
If so, another sensible decision IMHO.


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Old 9th Sep 2009, 07:59
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The News at Ten report mentioned that an investigation had been carried out into the incident and a report published (as far as I can remember).
I suppose the "report published" is just ITN journalese.
ITN made no mention of a report being published. What it did say was:-

"An investigation found that Bob's co-pilot froze because of the stress of the situation"
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 08:46
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What I hadn't realised from the You Tube clip posted on here earlier was how far to the left they had drifted, and that Bob had had to put the a/c down with the port undercarriage on the grass. Even more dramatic than I had previously thought.

Totally agree about the A-330 captain and a few more comments from instant experts. If Bob had done what he suggested I would think CAA would have been obliged to take an entirely different view than the sensible one they have adopted.
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 10:48
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Presumably the report said who was doing what in the cockpit ect, but is it restricted to viewing by the press, who then use their own style of language?

It seems that 100% of the blame is being put on an unidentified engineer, without any real backround as to what happened.
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 14:42
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If you want a good laugh, go have a look at the article in the Daily Express.

Daily Express | UK News :: Hero,70, lands flyaway bomber

Utter drivel!
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 14:51
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Mostly the same cr@p, including the 150 ft, that we've seen before.

But don't you love the photo?

CJ
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 15:31
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Was on BBC South Today this lunchtime.

A bit more accurate in that they actually just let the pilot tell the story.

BBC South Today
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 15:39
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It seems that 100% of the blame is being put on an unidentified engineer, without any real backround as to what happened.


The pilot's description of what happened is earlier in this thread.
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 16:58
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VP - does the Victor need 2 hands on the c/column for take-off? Just wondered if you were unable to close the throttles? I think my co-pilot's left arm might have been a bit sore in that situation
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 17:03
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But don't you love the photo?
Yup, Victors have changed a bit since I was on them! I was always rubbish at aircraft recognition, anyone care to enlighten me?
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 18:00
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The quote actually says "The Victor bomber, simular to above, zooms into the air".

'Simular' means, of course, 'nothing like'.

BOAC - I think the back of his head might have been tingling a bit, too!
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 18:09
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Probably a re-post but link to footage here c/o Liveleak.

Sporty...
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 18:30
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Originally Posted by nacluv
BOAC - I think the back of his head might have been tingling a bit, too!
- and then, when they had finally stopped...........................watch him try to walk
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