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As an outsider, I think that any a/c photygraphed against a sky...is a "Sillyette"...no highlights, just merging into shadowy darkness, to confuse the not so sober...
I posted a "negative image" and wasn't chastised, or castigated
I say let it stand...
watp,iktch
I posted a "negative image" and wasn't chastised, or castigated
I say let it stand...
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Thank you Bri, I have checked Mel's supurb listing, and this one is not in there ! haha. I have very little info on this one, no first flight date etc, but will search ! but I am sure you people out there know the whole deal ? Or do you ? Keith.
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No cryptic clue for this one as its close to my heart!
I spent many hours as a kid watching my father drawing up plans for this as a 1/8th scale flying model (never built incidentally).
The Boulton Paul P.31 , known as the Bittern.
I spent many hours as a kid watching my father drawing up plans for this as a 1/8th scale flying model (never built incidentally).
The Boulton Paul P.31 , known as the Bittern.
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RETDPI, Yes Yes, I realy thought that would last a little longer ! Well done
Diesel Addict, A very very close second (1 minute) !
Looking forward to RETDPI's next challenge. Keith.
Diesel Addict, A very very close second (1 minute) !
Looking forward to RETDPI's next challenge. Keith.
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Many thanks Keith .
Just for fun ( and I don't expect this to last too long) is an aircraft that my father also drew the plans up for and which we successfully flew as a 1/12th scale free flight model.
Just for fun ( and I don't expect this to last too long) is an aircraft that my father also drew the plans up for and which we successfully flew as a 1/12th scale free flight model.
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If you are correct S'Land and I am sure you are. I would like to ask Geoff how well did the model fly as I understand that four prototypes of the A.D. Scout were built, two from Blackburn and two from Hewlett and Blondeau Ltd, and delivered to RNAS Chingford. However, because they were all considerably above the estimated all-up weight and were found difficult to handle in the air they were scrapped.
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Mel,
I would be interested to hear how the model flew as well. From what I have read fitting the fuselage nacelle to the upper wing may have given the pilot good all round visibility, but caused problems with the stability.
Richard.
I would be interested to hear how the model flew as well. From what I have read fitting the fuselage nacelle to the upper wing may have given the pilot good all round visibility, but caused problems with the stability.
Richard.
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Its the Sparrow of course. S'land has control
Well ,regarding the model. Powered by a Mills .75 (runs backwards nicely) the idea was to keep it fairly stable by using the undercarriage as a sort of pendulum. Thus the skids were made of brass. The fun was doing the inverted cabane -brass tube and sleeving soldered to get it 100% true.
Construction otherwise conventional balsa and tissue. Overall it came out quite light.
It flew O.K. and at a reasonably slow speed, but was subject to a bit of "hunting" and this led sometimes to a tendency to spiral instability -the comparitively heavy undercarrige of course not helping once the spiral was established. Examination of flight test reports of the original full size machine coincidentally indicated a shortage of fin&rudder area causing a lack of stability in yaw. We looked at building a 1/8th (Mills 1.3) version and I did suggest "cheating" on the fin area and /or slightly lengthening the tail booms. This suggestion met with a very piercing scowl from RETDPI senior!
Well , here is a a Kodak Instamatic (!) shot of the beast taken about 1966 accompanied by the chief flight tracking assistant -the famous "Labsation" Sabre Dog.
Geoff
P.S. Quite a thread drift acheivement to get a photograph of your old dog onto an aircraft silhouette thread
Well ,regarding the model. Powered by a Mills .75 (runs backwards nicely) the idea was to keep it fairly stable by using the undercarriage as a sort of pendulum. Thus the skids were made of brass. The fun was doing the inverted cabane -brass tube and sleeving soldered to get it 100% true.
Construction otherwise conventional balsa and tissue. Overall it came out quite light.
It flew O.K. and at a reasonably slow speed, but was subject to a bit of "hunting" and this led sometimes to a tendency to spiral instability -the comparitively heavy undercarrige of course not helping once the spiral was established. Examination of flight test reports of the original full size machine coincidentally indicated a shortage of fin&rudder area causing a lack of stability in yaw. We looked at building a 1/8th (Mills 1.3) version and I did suggest "cheating" on the fin area and /or slightly lengthening the tail booms. This suggestion met with a very piercing scowl from RETDPI senior!
Well , here is a a Kodak Instamatic (!) shot of the beast taken about 1966 accompanied by the chief flight tracking assistant -the famous "Labsation" Sabre Dog.
Geoff
P.S. Quite a thread drift acheivement to get a photograph of your old dog onto an aircraft silhouette thread
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RETDPI.......
No problems with the odd doggie snap (no pun intended) in fact your post has given me another idea 'Guess the breed of dog silhouette challenge'
No problems with the odd doggie snap (no pun intended) in fact your post has given me another idea
'Guess the breed of dog silhouette challenge'
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Please do so Diesel Addict, they cannot touch you for it.
It is indeed the Fiat BR. 20 Cicogna (Stork). With a first flight in February 1935 the Cicogna was used in WWII, the Spanish Civil War and the Second Sino-Japanese War. However, it was obsolete before Italy entered WWII.
Diesel Addict has declared "open house".
It is indeed the Fiat BR. 20 Cicogna (Stork). With a first flight in February 1935 the Cicogna was used in WWII, the Spanish Civil War and the Second Sino-Japanese War. However, it was obsolete before Italy entered WWII.
Diesel Addict has declared "open house".
