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Morning Guys!
Just checking in to see how my overnight answer fared.
When I saw Graeme's Challenge, I thought (Like Skytrain) that it must be the little feller in the background, mainly because that really is a "Silhouette"! I was going to look into the fact that it appears to have leading edge slats in the open position, so it's presumabley formating on the camera ship, but that's no longer relevant now as HD says. Graeme has closed the challenge and announced the answer as the Vultee (camera ship) . Although he didn't say it in so many words, I'm sure that Open House is what Graeme meant and we should carry on.
Just checking in to see how my overnight answer fared.
When I saw Graeme's Challenge, I thought (Like Skytrain) that it must be the little feller in the background, mainly because that really is a "Silhouette"! I was going to look into the fact that it appears to have leading edge slats in the open position, so it's presumabley formating on the camera ship, but that's no longer relevant now as HD says. Graeme has closed the challenge and announced the answer as the Vultee (camera ship) . Although he didn't say it in so many words, I'm sure that Open House is what Graeme meant and we should carry on.
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Well, if its the background aircraft we are after, then we need to keep guessing as I am sure its not a Vultee V-11. If its the foreground then I guess we have the answer.
Maybe there is a clue to the aircraft in the background...perhaps its also a Vultee, a P-66 maybe. I had previously discounted a radial, but now I look again, I wonder?
Maybe there is a clue to the aircraft in the background...perhaps its also a Vultee, a P-66 maybe. I had previously discounted a radial, but now I look again, I wonder?
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Looking again, I am sure Skytrain is right and Graeme misunderstood what I meant by 'target', which is my fault for being too lazy to write 'aircraft we are looking for'.
It is a single seater so cannot be the V-11 and so is still a valid challenge, unkless I am wrong yet again
Therefore I think the silhouetted aircraft is the Vought V-143/V-150
I am starting to believe that I am retarded.
It is a single seater so cannot be the V-11 and so is still a valid challenge, unkless I am wrong yet again
Therefore I think the silhouetted aircraft is the Vought V-143/V-150
I am starting to believe that I am retarded.
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re-reading the posts, I can see that there is some ambiguity; in HD's first post, he mentiones that the foreground plane looks Italian and then asks if the "target" is a Reggiani (meaning the answer we are loooking for), but a tired Graeme, may have interpreted this as the foreground plane as it had just been mentioned and it does look like it's being attacked, so he answered HD's question and logged out leaving the Challenge running.
Yes, maybe it could be a Vultee P-66, does that have L/E Slats, or is that not what you read into the profile?
HD, I think that you've just agreed with me but our posts crossed, but I'll have to disagree with you, you're not a retard!!
And now I'll have to leave you guys to it; as an elderly neighbour has just called to say her drains are blocked, so I'm off for an afternoon of "rodding the dunny", lucky me
!!!
Yes, maybe it could be a Vultee P-66, does that have L/E Slats, or is that not what you read into the profile?
HD, I think that you've just agreed with me but our posts crossed, but I'll have to disagree with you, you're not a retard!!
And now I'll have to leave you guys to it; as an elderly neighbour has just called to say her drains are blocked, so I'm off for an afternoon of "rodding the dunny", lucky me
!!!
Last edited by SincoTC; 17th Jan 2010 at 13:45. Reason: HD posted while I was writing.
Now I'm confused.
"it appears to have leading edge slats in the open position"
Methinks not. Aeroplanes of that period rarely had these devices. They are trailing edge flaps, presumably deployed to match the possible slow speed of the photo ship.
"it appears to have leading edge slats in the open position"
Methinks not. Aeroplanes of that period rarely had these devices. They are trailing edge flaps, presumably deployed to match the possible slow speed of the photo ship.
My apologies for all the confusion. I guess it's not wise to try challenges late at night when you're tired.
Yes, the small silhouette was the challenge. It is seen in mock combat with the Vultee V-11 which I 'thought' HD was referring to as the "target." Sorry I didn't make it clear.
Nevertheless, well done Ken, the Vanguard.
In fact the tall tail Model 48X.
Off to work I go...
Yes, the small silhouette was the challenge. It is seen in mock combat with the Vultee V-11 which I 'thought' HD was referring to as the "target." Sorry I didn't make it clear.
Nevertheless, well done Ken, the Vanguard.
In fact the tall tail Model 48X.
Off to work I go...
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Well done Skytrain, Good Challenge Graeme! Glad it's all sorted, just like my neighbour's drains!
LM, it was precisely because very few aircraft of that period had L/E Slats that I thought it may be a significant clue, I had ruled out the discontinuity being due the the flaps showing, as they spanned too much to allow for the aeilerons.
Now that I've had a chance for another and closer look, I think that they are probably an artefact of light/shade on panel lines which may have fooled the silhouetting process (and me
) plus the fact that they appeared to go right over the gun-ports too !!
LM, it was precisely because very few aircraft of that period had L/E Slats that I thought it may be a significant clue, I had ruled out the discontinuity being due the the flaps showing, as they spanned too much to allow for the aeilerons.
Now that I've had a chance for another and closer look, I think that they are probably an artefact of light/shade on panel lines which may have fooled the silhouetting process (and me
) plus the fact that they appeared to go right over the gun-ports too !!
I am off to bed
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For the life of me I can't find a high wing aircraft of this size that does that. They all seem to have struts that extend from out along the bottom wing to the fuselage or landing wheels.
(I'll stand back now and watch the monitor fill with examples proving me wrong!
)
....the struts extend from the wheels to the bottom wing roots....
That's because it's a cantilever wing so it has a strong centre-section enabling the undercarriage loads to be taken to that part of the structure.
The world loves a smart-ass....
That's because it's a cantilever wing so it has a strong centre-section enabling the undercarriage loads to be taken to that part of the structure.
The world loves a smart-ass....
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There is something familiar about this...from above, other than the rear window, it is similar to the unbuilt Partenavia PD93. The rear half of the aircraft looks a little Partenavia'ish, but the front...?? A utility aircraft, big windows/passenger door...for para jumping??
Need to research this one...
Need to research this one...