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Bastoon - absolutely no chance - you owe me big time!!
Thanks Navaleye, I remember now wishing he had been in the Police Stn at the time! I went back on the 2002 Pilgrimage and heard further accounts and all those I spoke to were of the same mind as I.
Thanks Navaleye, I remember now wishing he had been in the Police Stn at the time! I went back on the 2002 Pilgrimage and heard further accounts and all those I spoke to were of the same mind as I.
Suspicion breeds confidence
I've just been sent a copy of:
NP 1840, The loss of Atlantic Conveyor, by Charles Drought. 192 pages.
It may shed some light on our discussions, I should have read in a couple of days and will pass on any relevant details.
NP 1840, The loss of Atlantic Conveyor, by Charles Drought. 192 pages.
It may shed some light on our discussions, I should have read in a couple of days and will pass on any relevant details.
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For those interested, the account given by author records two Exocet hits, each preceded by a warning. Its a good first hand account and can be had on the second hand market for about £2,
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We watched in awe, and marvelled at the ability of an old boot of a helicopter being able to lift 4 gonads that size (Messrs Manley and Balls). I'm in an airport lounge in transit back from the ME just now and will post a longer version on return and after a refresher with old oppos in London.
We thought it was the Oerlikon 35 mil stuff but that's just the poor memory of an old has been (my mate, not me). Peter was of course well placed to measure the rounds involved
We watched in awe, and marvelled at the ability of an old boot of a helicopter being able to lift 4 gonads that size (Messrs Manley and Balls). I'm in an airport lounge in transit back from the ME just now and will post a longer version on return and after a refresher with old oppos in London.
We thought it was the Oerlikon 35 mil stuff but that's just the poor memory of an old has been (my mate, not me). Peter was of course well placed to measure the rounds involved
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Navaleye,
Thank you for the 'heads up' on the Conveyor book.
Amazon
N. P. 1840 The Loss of the Atlantic Conveyor: Amazon.co.uk: Charles Drought: Books
are quoting a ridiculous price for a second-hand copy!!!
I'll keep Googling.
Regards
Thank you for the 'heads up' on the Conveyor book.
Amazon
N. P. 1840 The Loss of the Atlantic Conveyor: Amazon.co.uk: Charles Drought: Books
are quoting a ridiculous price for a second-hand copy!!!
I'll keep Googling.
Regards
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Bast0n,
It was as simple of "Air raid warning Red, hit the deck" just prior to each impact.
BTW, How many Wing Commanders were aboard at the time?
It was as simple of "Air raid warning Red, hit the deck" just prior to each impact.
BTW, How many Wing Commanders were aboard at the time?
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I think that is what was broadcast on warships such as Hermes whose Ops rooms knew there were missiles inbound. We did not - only that there was an Air Raid Warning. I was standing on the bridge at the time of the impact,(just the one impact - but perhaps two missiles), and I did not hear that warning of which you speak, otherwise I may have hopped about a bit!! Perhaps I was deaf from the Mk 1 flying helmet? What?
ps - I have just ordered the book from Amazon at £9.99 - any chance of some rich chap out there sending this pensioner a sub?
I think that is what was broadcast on warships such as Hermes whose Ops rooms knew there were missiles inbound. We did not - only that there was an Air Raid Warning. I was standing on the bridge at the time of the impact,(just the one impact - but perhaps two missiles), and I did not hear that warning of which you speak, otherwise I may have hopped about a bit!! Perhaps I was deaf from the Mk 1 flying helmet? What?
ps - I have just ordered the book from Amazon at £9.99 - any chance of some rich chap out there sending this pensioner a sub?
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Well it just goes to show how two people on the same ship at the same time can have differing accounts. Enjoy the read, perhaps we can have your thoughts after you've digested.
A question also for out Argentinian friends: HMS Glamorgan reported that her radar was being jammed on several occasions. Which unit was responsible for that?
A question also for out Argentinian friends: HMS Glamorgan reported that her radar was being jammed on several occasions. Which unit was responsible for that?
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I'll check with the other forum and see who was jamming -
As far as I know , two long range radasr operating , non of which should jam , one Roland and 35 mm systems which I don't think could jam either -
But I'll put the request on the other forum
As far as I know , two long range radasr operating , non of which should jam , one Roland and 35 mm systems which I don't think could jam either -
But I'll put the request on the other forum
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Jamming HMS Glanmorgan
While waitting on a response from the other forum
On may 01 in the afternoon three ships approach the coast south of Stanley to start naval bombardment , the Rolnad which was at the bottom of Sapper Hill , engaged one of the ships but did not fire because it was on its limite of range - It would be posible that it could have something to do with a jamming at that moment ?
On may 01 in the afternoon three ships approach the coast south of Stanley to start naval bombardment , the Rolnad which was at the bottom of Sapper Hill , engaged one of the ships but did not fire because it was on its limite of range - It would be posible that it could have something to do with a jamming at that moment ?
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Jualbo,
In response to your post 238
Not really, The Exocet was spotted visually by Glamorgan's navigator passing off her starboard side approximately 1/2 mile away.
Also reported being jammed by Skyguard.
In response to your post 238
Still a mistery if Glamorgan was close or not.
Also reported being jammed by Skyguard.
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Naveleye , and please Jualbo coorect me if I'm wrong , but I remmember that at least two times and it could be as much as three times that the exorcet was tried to fire -
I remmebre that we were told when a shot was going to be tried so we updated positions of the ships as much as each 30 seconds -
I also remmeber one of those nights in which the exorcet was going to be fire , that after updating nothing happen and we were told something like :
Well we had it but when we hit the switch the doors of the container that hold the exorcet did not open so it did not shoot
Another night also with us being told that a launch was gioing to be executed and after updating the info on ships , well nothing happen - We ask and the answere was : well it did fire but nobody knows were it went , they are still searching for it
And then came the night of may 11 with the shot that hit HMS Glanmorgan -
Could the one that was fire and no one knows were it went could be the one Glanmorgan sees half a mile away going by ?
These are the conversations I remmebre with the Air Post Command -
I remmebre that we were told when a shot was going to be tried so we updated positions of the ships as much as each 30 seconds -
I also remmeber one of those nights in which the exorcet was going to be fire , that after updating nothing happen and we were told something like :
Well we had it but when we hit the switch the doors of the container that hold the exorcet did not open so it did not shoot
Another night also with us being told that a launch was gioing to be executed and after updating the info on ships , well nothing happen - We ask and the answere was : well it did fire but nobody knows were it went , they are still searching for it
And then came the night of may 11 with the shot that hit HMS Glanmorgan -
Could the one that was fire and no one knows were it went could be the one Glanmorgan sees half a mile away going by ?
These are the conversations I remmebre with the Air Post Command -
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Snapshot,
Thanks. I haven't been to the IWM in years. I wonder if they have something similar?
Reydelcastillio,
I can tell you where it went. It hurtled noisily across the flight deck of HMS Avenger, resulting in a change of clothes for the FDO who was standing on it at the time.
Thanks. I haven't been to the IWM in years. I wonder if they have something similar?
Reydelcastillio,
Another night also with us being told that a launch was gioing to be executed and after updating the info on ships , well nothing happen - We ask and the answere was : well it did fire but nobody knows were it went , they are still searching for it