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Old 1st Feb 2010, 18:30
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The tours are being run by one of the groundcrew, a club committee member and myself as one of the engineering assistants if that is any help.
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Old 1st Feb 2010, 18:50
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The fat lady must now be gargling in the wings I suspect if their website appeal stats are anything to go by
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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 06:48
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Piece of paper

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Robin

An impertinent question, but does this mean Vulcan to the Sky have not issued redundancy notices to staff today?

Or was that another scare story?
[/qoute]

Yes I did get my redundancy notice yesterday and thank you for asking

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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 08:48
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That is sad news.

Hope all goes well with you and the very hard-working team
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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 13:07
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Could anyone from the project comment on the rumour that David Walton has offered to buy the aircraft back?
Is it anything to do with the amount of money he is (aledgedly) owed by the project?
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Old 5th Feb 2010, 15:14
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Please give us a minute of your time to build publicity for this British Icon by contributing towards a New World Record!

Please watch:

Direct Link: YouTube - Vulcan XH558 Survival Appeal

and sign XH558's 50th Birthday Card at: Vulcan 50th Birthday Appeal Homepage

Any pledge you are able to make (a promise to pay something later) will help save this unique and magnificent example of British Aviation heritage for the future.

Please would you now send on this message to all of your contacts?

Thank you.
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Old 5th Feb 2010, 15:19
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Just days left to save Vulcan XH558

Please give us a minute of your time to build publicity for this British Icon by contributing towards a New World Record!

Please watch:

Direct Link: YouTube - Vulcan XH558 Survival Appeal

and sign XH558's 50th Birthday Card at: Vulcan 50th Birthday Appeal Homepage

Any pledge you are able to make (a promise to pay something later) will help save this unique and magnificent example of British Aviation heritage for the future.

Please would you now send on this message to all of your contacts?


Thank you.


Moderators Note: Posted here for general news and interest of your readers away from the usual Vulcan XH558 thread. Many thanks.
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Old 5th Feb 2010, 20:14
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it would be great to do so, but these constant last minute threats/appeals are beginning to pall.

You really need to get the finances on a firm footing to avoid this continual 'begging'

I've just learnt my own finances are going to take a big hit so can't contribute this time. I guess a lot of supporters are in the same position.

I would be surprised if you didn't make the target (again), but I would caution against the law of diminishing returns or the effects of crying wolf.

I support the project but am worried about its sustainability
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Old 6th Feb 2010, 08:08
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Can't we just send it to the US and let them operate it?
I don't wish to denigrate the efforts of all the volunteers and paid professionals of the VOC, but there comes a time when enough is enough.
The UK doesn't seem to be the place to operate complex aircraft , for EASA,sponsorship,airspace and tax reasons, etc.
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Old 6th Feb 2010, 08:17
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As others have said the repitive calling for cash is getting boring. However I really wish I could offer some cash but Ho Hum. Still cant belive someone like Virgin nasn` sponsered it.
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Old 6th Feb 2010, 08:56
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Got the T-shirt. Learned the lesson. Can we play with another toy now, please?
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Old 6th Feb 2010, 09:07
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Last year when I was chatting to the VTSC people at an air show, they were very candid in stating that they realised that they couldn't keep calling on the public for donations......

Anyone who flew Vulcans in the fatigue-strapped late 1970s could have told the 558 operators that all those low level displays - particularly the high speed 'bombing' displays - would gobble up airframe fatigue. Fine, but knowing that this would lead to the need to bring forward a very expensive maintenance programme without having first secured the funding stream seems rather dubious management practice to me.

Having seen the value of my savings plummet every week so far this year thanks to this inept nuLabor government, to expect loyal supporters to keep stumping up the cash seems rather a lost cause to me.

Where are the 'major sponsors' we kept hearing about?
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Old 6th Feb 2010, 14:10
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Crying Wolf again.......
If the whole project had been thought through properly at the beginning perhaps we would not be hearing the regular pleas for cash ? I applaude all the efforts from the whole team involved, but "naive" seems to cross my mind. As the old saying goes " If you have to ask how much does a Rolls Royce car cost to run, you cannot afford one ". I am willing to bet that the well known Man In The Street would prefer the sight and sound of a Lancaster rather than a Vulcan ...........
ps What did happen to Tombstone ?
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Old 6th Feb 2010, 14:46
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What did happen to Tombstone ?
He reneged on his promise. Or rather, he claimed to have kept his promise, but wouldn't provide the necessary supporting evidence.....
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Old 6th Feb 2010, 15:31
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i am so sorry to hear that the UK Vulcan project is in the mire again
(and infact so many classic and historic vintage aircraft projects seem to not get enough funding from seemingly a well-heeled bunch of aviators, and public who would like to see these kites stay fit and well, such as BAC1-11, Trident, Britannia etc)

I deal with Steam Trains now (see The A1 Steam Locomotive Trust) but am ex-aviation of 30 years or so...

yes, funding is bloody hard but the steam engines and heritage railways seem to do fairly well, infact fare much better than nostalgic aviation it seems.

i will watch with interest though when the cap for concorde to fly again gets passed around (just a matter of when)

we do too have funding struggles of course... but it seems old trains seem to attract more dosh then old planes which is really quite sad...
i have, and will again support Vulcan but i see from many of the above comments here in this post that alot of people are a bit fed up with the calls for cash...
why is that?
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Old 6th Feb 2010, 16:42
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"I am willing to bet that the well known Man In The Street would prefer the sight and sound of a Lancaster rather than a Vulcan ..........."


I suspect that he/she couldn't give a toss! Why should they?
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Old 6th Feb 2010, 17:53
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Have you doubters never heard four Merlins at once ?
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Old 8th Feb 2010, 19:41
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yes, funding is bloody hard but the steam engines and heritage railways seem to do fairly well, in fact fare much better than nostalgic aviation it seems.
That's probably because steam restorations are usually costed properly before they're started, there's honesty about what needs to be done and how long it will take, no-one uses hype and spin (quite the reverse) and no-one tries to make money or take large salaries out of it.

As with any charity, donors need to feel every penny is going to the cause, not to some schemer's wallet.
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Old 9th Feb 2010, 07:00
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Dr. Bob on the radio this morning. £200,000 by the end of the month or its curtains.

Pale blue with pink flowers, perhaps?
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Old 9th Feb 2010, 08:06
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Given that they've had £135k in donations only another £55k in 3 weeks shouldn't be a problem. Unless he means another £200k

BUT

He has to stop this brinkmanship. Crying wolf all the time is not a strategy that guarantees long-term funding
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