Vulcan XH 558 Threads (merged)
Balls!
Failed to display due to weather. Brake snag was minor and quickly fixed.
I have vague memories of the Vulcan cancelling and the Avro 707C displaying instead at Yeovilton - the weather being equally vile at the time. Did some Googling whilst whiling away the time between flights in the Senator lounge at FRA this afternoon - and discovered it must have been in 1954 when I was only 3.
Clearly a formative incident!
Gut wrenching for all the VTST team to have worked hard to fly 558 to HMS Heron, only for rain to stop play.
Failed to display due to weather. Brake snag was minor and quickly fixed.
I have vague memories of the Vulcan cancelling and the Avro 707C displaying instead at Yeovilton - the weather being equally vile at the time. Did some Googling whilst whiling away the time between flights in the Senator lounge at FRA this afternoon - and discovered it must have been in 1954 when I was only 3.
Clearly a formative incident!
Gut wrenching for all the VTST team to have worked hard to fly 558 to HMS Heron, only for rain to stop play.
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May the farce be with you............
I heard brakes too..... no use fixing it if you have no engineer available is it to certify it, if that's the case, it's another nail in plemings coffin....
If it does not manage RIAT I can see it being its last season.
I heard brakes too..... no use fixing it if you have no engineer available is it to certify it, if that's the case, it's another nail in plemings coffin....
If it does not manage RIAT I can see it being its last season.
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used twitter for updates
hi
Came over on twitter brake problem Shutting down.
later That was fixed but weather to bad towed to static
to get this sign up to Twitter SEARCH XH558 the select Follow
558 was due at lasham but cancelled not really surprised nothing apart
from 1 chopper was able to fly .
TONY
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Came over on twitter brake problem Shutting down.
later That was fixed but weather to bad towed to static
to get this sign up to Twitter SEARCH XH558 the select Follow
558 was due at lasham but cancelled not really surprised nothing apart
from 1 chopper was able to fly .
TONY
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Says it all really......
All the last fundraiser did was to reduce the debt, not really fund the on going flying, if the fail at RIAT I can see it being parked up...
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Trust accounts show annual staff costs for the financial year ending in March 2009 are likely to be £620,000, while engineering and maintenance costs are estimated at £320,000. The Trust will also have to find a further £430,000 for insurance and fuel in the coming year.
The trust is shown to owe £100,000 to its landlord, C Walton Ltd.
The figures also show the Trust owes the main engineering contractor £1.3 million, a sum which it has put to one side, to allow the project to continue.
The trust acknowledged that if it were not for the generosity of key creditors, the plane would never have taken off again in October 2007.
A statement said: "Delays and unforeseen problems added to costs through 2007.
"But significant goodwill on the part of the trust's creditors, in particular prime contractor and engineering authority Marshall of Cambridge Aerospace Ltd and landlord C Walton Ltd, allowed the trust to reach the milestone of first test flight in October 2007."
David Walton, of C Walton Ltd, confirmed the company was owed a six-figure sum.
He said: "The figure is larger than the £100,000 mentioned in the accounts.
"We are being patient with the trust and we are in talks. We hope the trust comes through, although it is a tough ask in the current economic climate."
He said his company would have to consider its options should the appeal fail.
A spokesman for Marshall of Cambridge Aerospace confirmed the £1.3 million debt and said talks were continuing.
Trust chief executive Dr Robert Pleming said: "If we cannot get sufficient pledges or donations between now and the end of January the project will have to close and the Vulcan will not fly again."
The Vulcan to the Sky Trust has launched a Save the Vulcan campaign to obtain cash and pledges from the public.
A Trust said 15,000 people pledging £4 a month for a year would reach the £1million target if it was gift aided to obtain tax relief.
He said no pledges would be called on unless the prospect of reaching £1million was likely.
Project supporter Phil Baildon of Market Harborough said: "The nation cannot afford to lose such an important part of our aviation heritage.
"I would urge people to pledge a regular amount to secure its survival."
People who want to support the pledge campaign can call the team on 0116 247 8145, or see the website below
All the last fundraiser did was to reduce the debt, not really fund the on going flying, if the fail at RIAT I can see it being parked up...
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Trust accounts show annual staff costs for the financial year ending in March 2009 are likely to be £620,000, while engineering and maintenance costs are estimated at £320,000. The Trust will also have to find a further £430,000 for insurance and fuel in the coming year.
The trust is shown to owe £100,000 to its landlord, C Walton Ltd.
The figures also show the Trust owes the main engineering contractor £1.3 million, a sum which it has put to one side, to allow the project to continue.
The trust acknowledged that if it were not for the generosity of key creditors, the plane would never have taken off again in October 2007.
A statement said: "Delays and unforeseen problems added to costs through 2007.
"But significant goodwill on the part of the trust's creditors, in particular prime contractor and engineering authority Marshall of Cambridge Aerospace Ltd and landlord C Walton Ltd, allowed the trust to reach the milestone of first test flight in October 2007."
David Walton, of C Walton Ltd, confirmed the company was owed a six-figure sum.
He said: "The figure is larger than the £100,000 mentioned in the accounts.
"We are being patient with the trust and we are in talks. We hope the trust comes through, although it is a tough ask in the current economic climate."
He said his company would have to consider its options should the appeal fail.
A spokesman for Marshall of Cambridge Aerospace confirmed the £1.3 million debt and said talks were continuing.
Trust chief executive Dr Robert Pleming said: "If we cannot get sufficient pledges or donations between now and the end of January the project will have to close and the Vulcan will not fly again."
The Vulcan to the Sky Trust has launched a Save the Vulcan campaign to obtain cash and pledges from the public.
A Trust said 15,000 people pledging £4 a month for a year would reach the £1million target if it was gift aided to obtain tax relief.
He said no pledges would be called on unless the prospect of reaching £1million was likely.
Project supporter Phil Baildon of Market Harborough said: "The nation cannot afford to lose such an important part of our aviation heritage.
"I would urge people to pledge a regular amount to secure its survival."
People who want to support the pledge campaign can call the team on 0116 247 8145, or see the website below
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Originally Posted by BEagle
Balls!
Failed to display due to weather. Brake snag was minor and quickly fixed.
I have vague memories of the Vulcan cancelling and the Avro 707C displaying instead at Yeovilton - the weather being equally vile at the time. Did some Googling whilst whiling away the time between flights in the Senator lounge at FRA this afternoon - and discovered it must have been in 1954 when I was only 3.
Clearly a formative incident!
Gut wrenching for all the VTST team to have worked hard to fly 558 to HMS Heron, only for rain to stop play.
Failed to display due to weather. Brake snag was minor and quickly fixed.
I have vague memories of the Vulcan cancelling and the Avro 707C displaying instead at Yeovilton - the weather being equally vile at the time. Did some Googling whilst whiling away the time between flights in the Senator lounge at FRA this afternoon - and discovered it must have been in 1954 when I was only 3.
Clearly a formative incident!
Gut wrenching for all the VTST team to have worked hard to fly 558 to HMS Heron, only for rain to stop play.
They towed 558 across to static so everyone could get a close up view. Still an awesome sight to behold.
Conditions played havoc with the all the displays today. Kudos to all those who got up and did their 'weather checks'.
Sea Vixen put on a good display, but alas the weather soon deteriorated again.
New brolly came in handy at the end of the day though.
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Yeah today was unlucky, due to a fault/tech prob, & then the weather.
Nothing anyone could've changed. Fine, its what happens in flying Aircraft at the best of times.
Which is why, a Professional management structure, given the remit that
''we only have 8/10 opportunities to display in the season''
would, by dint of good management, maximise those scarce opportunities.
Last weekend was unnecessary.
Sorry people if I'm harping on, I used to see the people complaining about the mgmt ( of G-VLCN )as not important or serious.
I was wrong.
They were right.
This bird is something special, lets not lose it.
P.S. Sorry Beags, I realise it probably means more to you than I could ever imagine
Nothing anyone could've changed. Fine, its what happens in flying Aircraft at the best of times.
Which is why, a Professional management structure, given the remit that
''we only have 8/10 opportunities to display in the season''
would, by dint of good management, maximise those scarce opportunities.
Last weekend was unnecessary.
Sorry people if I'm harping on, I used to see the people complaining about the mgmt ( of G-VLCN )as not important or serious.
I was wrong.
They were right.
This bird is something special, lets not lose it.
P.S. Sorry Beags, I realise it probably means more to you than I could ever imagine
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weather
hi
Anywhere that this bird manages to turn up is Amazing .
Yesterday i think was one of those AIR SHOW Days and we have seen a few like that down the years at FAB One minute Sunny next cloud on the deck and rain likeStair rods .
There were loads of people at Lasham and from very early
on you feared the worst but even a chance of a flyby these days brings
out big crowds hopefully next time .But thanks to all for trying
Tony
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Anywhere that this bird manages to turn up is Amazing .
Yesterday i think was one of those AIR SHOW Days and we have seen a few like that down the years at FAB One minute Sunny next cloud on the deck and rain likeStair rods .
There were loads of people at Lasham and from very early
on you feared the worst but even a chance of a flyby these days brings
out big crowds hopefully next time .But thanks to all for trying
Tony
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Thank you Smiler for letting us know about the MA Tech, a good move for the season and I correct my original post that the brake problem was not reason for non display on Saturday but totally down to the weather.
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Can anybody confirm or deny that 2 MA people would have been required to clear this brake fault, as previous posts state that only one was available with the VOC. If it is the case that 2 are required have they gone to Yeovilton to fix it?
On another note, when is the aircraft due at Fairford?
On another note, when is the aircraft due at Fairford?
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Cant help with the MA question but regards RIAT,the talk is leaving Yeoviltan around midday Friday arriving at RIAT 12.30 -12.45 and from a good source arriving with company.
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Anyone know as per previous post if she will depart Monday from Riat or return to Bz from her sunday display as I plan to go down monday for departures if she is there still with my autistic son to make up for the dissapointment at Waddo as he wants to see a takeoff
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Frid Delayed due weather. Now 1430 arrival at Fairford.
Just in off her own twitter updates
still awaiting to see if she will stay over sunday night, no one seems to know
Just in off her own twitter updates
still awaiting to see if she will stay over sunday night, no one seems to know
Well done to all involved!
A well-spotted weather window meant that 558 was able to fly to Fairford today, despite the generally dog-$hit local area weather.
Here's hoping that tomorrow will bring clearer skies!
A well-spotted weather window meant that 558 was able to fly to Fairford today, despite the generally dog-$hit local area weather.
Here's hoping that tomorrow will bring clearer skies!
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Yes was following on twitter. Its all up here now
Harriers have all stopped flying now out of Cots which is a shame although looks like the worst has now gone North East towards Waddo
Amazing how you take them for granted as they have been blasting circuits over Oakham all morning. but didnt notice till it went so quiet
Saturday is a sell out at RIAT I see
Harriers have all stopped flying now out of Cots which is a shame although looks like the worst has now gone North East towards Waddo
Amazing how you take them for granted as they have been blasting circuits over Oakham all morning. but didnt notice till it went so quiet
Saturday is a sell out at RIAT I see
Can anybody confirm or deny that 2 MA people would have been required to clear this brake fault, as previous posts state that only one was available with the VOC. If it is the case that 2 are required have they gone to Yeovilton to fix it?
I assumed the Brake Fault was landing gear related. Normally no 'dupe' required.
If it was an Airbrake Fault then perhaps a Duplicate Inspection would be required.
Vulcan airbrakes are driven electrically, not hydraulically.
The Vulcan hydraulic system is pretty basic; pumps on 3 engines and one Electro-Hydraulic Power Pack (EHPP) for ground operation. Wheelbrakes, nosewheel steering, bomb doors, AAPP intake scoop and that's about it.
But it runs at around 4000 psi, so is a system to be viewed with caution!
The Vulcan hydraulic system is pretty basic; pumps on 3 engines and one Electro-Hydraulic Power Pack (EHPP) for ground operation. Wheelbrakes, nosewheel steering, bomb doors, AAPP intake scoop and that's about it.
But it runs at around 4000 psi, so is a system to be viewed with caution!