Vulcan XH 558 Threads (merged)
Sorry, Tombstone, but we demand independent evidence!
I will be quite happy to fly PrimeTime Joanna down to Marham to record the evidence for poster(ior)ity - perhaps as 'Bonus Material' on Vulcan Restoration DVD no.3?
To save your embarrassment, ask a rock ape or gym queen if you can borrow their gimp mask for the day!
Of course, if you were to hand over a cheque for £558 to the Vulcan to the Sky Fund, perhaps we could be persuaded to accept that as an alternative?
Would we, chaps/chapesses/chap-others?
I will be quite happy to fly PrimeTime Joanna down to Marham to record the evidence for poster(ior)ity - perhaps as 'Bonus Material' on Vulcan Restoration DVD no.3?
To save your embarrassment, ask a rock ape or gym queen if you can borrow their gimp mask for the day!
Of course, if you were to hand over a cheque for £558 to the Vulcan to the Sky Fund, perhaps we could be persuaded to accept that as an alternative?
Would we, chaps/chapesses/chap-others?
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Would we, chaps/chapesses/chap-others?
I think not BEagle, passing over a cheque is not the gentleman's way out in this case.
The challenge was issued therefore the rose must fly, and be seen to fly. Surely nothing else is acceptable. (Although judicious use of duct tape may be in order.)
I think not BEagle, passing over a cheque is not the gentleman's way out in this case.
The challenge was issued therefore the rose must fly, and be seen to fly. Surely nothing else is acceptable. (Although judicious use of duct tape may be in order.)
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Perhaps Tombstone's "display" ought to be the distance that 558 takes for it to become airborne on its first take off run? 
Marham's main should be long enough!
Marham's main should be long enough!
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Can anybody confirm if the hangar currently housing XH558 at Bruntingthorpe is the big one near to where the Super Guppy is parked?
Also - When she does take off, will it be from Runway 28 or will it be trundled all the way to 08?
Also - When she does take off, will it be from Runway 28 or will it be trundled all the way to 08?
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Having gently ribbed Tombstone on this since he first posted the fateful words here - that he is prepared to do it and to post evidence (or have it recorded) should satisfy us.
He has to date, taken it all in good humour and to suggest a cheque might be an alternative could only impugn his honour as one of Her Majesty's finest
If memory serves (and to be honest it's late and I'm too lazy to go back through the postings) there was also an associated offer made to enhance the performance. If both were to occur - I would be happy to send a small donation to Children in Need or RAFBF as recognition of the event and of Tombstones promise.
Can we say any fairer than that I wonder?
I just hope first flight is in decent weather -
He has to date, taken it all in good humour and to suggest a cheque might be an alternative could only impugn his honour as one of Her Majesty's finest
If memory serves (and to be honest it's late and I'm too lazy to go back through the postings) there was also an associated offer made to enhance the performance. If both were to occur - I would be happy to send a small donation to Children in Need or RAFBF as recognition of the event and of Tombstones promise.
Can we say any fairer than that I wonder?
I just hope first flight is in decent weather -
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give 'em a break!
poor old tombstone - has no-one thought that rose insertion will be impossible unless his head has been extracted first!
i have been gently simmering over the months with some of the plop that has been voiced on here, so now it's my turn!
suggest removing all 4 olymupussies from 558 and replacing with the new-fangled "Doom-and-Gloom-Powered-Propulsion-Units" then she'll be up up and away in no time!
it does beg the question: just how many doom and gloom merchants (you know who you are!) will beat a path to the first airshow with a displaying vulcan? i hope they all stay away least they spoil the display for everyone, dragging their huge grey clouds with them over their heads! i suggest that CAA should hastily introduce new legislation stating that anyone presenting themselves at an airshow with a rose-stem protruding from their nether-regions should have their eardrums pierced and eyes poked out to prevent them from seeing or hearing 558 perform!
as far as "558 is public property so we should all be encouragd to flock to brunty to see our money in the air" goes:
1) i'd love to see the innermost workings of a nuclear submarine - it's partly mine so i should be able to climb all over it whenever i like, but those whitehall spoilsports say that i can't - national security or some such rubish,
2) i fancy spending a night or two in 10 downing street - looks very comfy and, after all it's partly mine, so why not?
3) my tax-disk money helps to keep the M1 open, so why can't i have a picnic in the middle lane whenever i like?
4) obviously the police couldn't arrest me for my unusual picnicing behaviour because i pay their salaries - it's up to me what i can be arrested for isn't it?
any kind of pattern beginning to emerge here??????????????????
conclusion:
when 558 takes off for the first time, TVOC/CAA/police/fire brigade etc etc should concentrate 100% on the flight - not having to worry about an ar$ehole on a step ladder (trying to insert a rose no doubt) holding up the traffic!
imagine if the unthinkable happened and non-brunty emergency services were urgently required on-airfield and were held up by the throng of well-meaning 'part shareholders'
TVOC face the possibility of countless hitches as it is - NOBODY need add to risks
as regards whether it would be classed as an "advertised public display", and the constant is it/isn't it merchants on this thread, perhaps the CAA are scratching their heads as well - "the rules don't cover this sort of thing guv, what d'ya reckon we should do?"
great british public - stay away! let's get her up and about first; that's what we ALL want!
go for it TVOC/VTTS et al
sm
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i have been gently simmering over the months with some of the plop that has been voiced on here, so now it's my turn!
suggest removing all 4 olymupussies from 558 and replacing with the new-fangled "Doom-and-Gloom-Powered-Propulsion-Units" then she'll be up up and away in no time!
it does beg the question: just how many doom and gloom merchants (you know who you are!) will beat a path to the first airshow with a displaying vulcan? i hope they all stay away least they spoil the display for everyone, dragging their huge grey clouds with them over their heads! i suggest that CAA should hastily introduce new legislation stating that anyone presenting themselves at an airshow with a rose-stem protruding from their nether-regions should have their eardrums pierced and eyes poked out to prevent them from seeing or hearing 558 perform!
as far as "558 is public property so we should all be encouragd to flock to brunty to see our money in the air" goes:
1) i'd love to see the innermost workings of a nuclear submarine - it's partly mine so i should be able to climb all over it whenever i like, but those whitehall spoilsports say that i can't - national security or some such rubish,
2) i fancy spending a night or two in 10 downing street - looks very comfy and, after all it's partly mine, so why not?
3) my tax-disk money helps to keep the M1 open, so why can't i have a picnic in the middle lane whenever i like?
4) obviously the police couldn't arrest me for my unusual picnicing behaviour because i pay their salaries - it's up to me what i can be arrested for isn't it?
any kind of pattern beginning to emerge here??????????????????
conclusion:
when 558 takes off for the first time, TVOC/CAA/police/fire brigade etc etc should concentrate 100% on the flight - not having to worry about an ar$ehole on a step ladder (trying to insert a rose no doubt) holding up the traffic!
imagine if the unthinkable happened and non-brunty emergency services were urgently required on-airfield and were held up by the throng of well-meaning 'part shareholders'
TVOC face the possibility of countless hitches as it is - NOBODY need add to risks
as regards whether it would be classed as an "advertised public display", and the constant is it/isn't it merchants on this thread, perhaps the CAA are scratching their heads as well - "the rules don't cover this sort of thing guv, what d'ya reckon we should do?"
great british public - stay away! let's get her up and about first; that's what we ALL want!
go for it TVOC/VTTS et al
sm
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Fly this month
It was announced on the radio today that the Vulcan will fly in the next 3 weeks. The media will be given 48 hours notice. It will taxy at 1030 to take off at 1100.
It seems, as said before, that the public will not be pre-warned nor invited on health and safety grounds.
So it should fly some time between 10 Sep and the end of the month.
A good thing we have a warm dry spell at the moment with English roses in fine bloom.
It seems, as said before, that the public will not be pre-warned nor invited on health and safety grounds.
So it should fly some time between 10 Sep and the end of the month.
A good thing we have a warm dry spell at the moment with English roses in fine bloom.
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From BBC news:
Vulcan bomber to fly within weeks
An engineer in charge of restoring a Cold War bomber says it will fly within the next three weeks.
The Vulcan bomber, one of a fleet that played a vital role in the Falklands Conflict defeat of Argentina, has been under restoration for eight years.
Project Engineering Manager, Andrew Edmundson, said the team had had a few glitches with the engines of the XH558, but these had now been fixed.
The plane is based at Bruntingthorpe airfield in Leicestershire.
Mr Edmunson, said: "It's the largest, most complex return to flight project that has ever been attempted.
"You're taking a very large aeroplane and putting it under the regulatory requirements of a complex category. The aeroplane is not complex in design but by size... so it means we have to treat this as if it was a 737.
"Even though we're not carrying the passengers, the work on the aeroplane has to be of that standard."
He said the bomber's engines were in very good shape and would be tested on Thursday.
The plane will have to undergo extensive checks before it can be cleared by the Civil Aviation Authority.
Vulcan bomber to fly within weeks
An engineer in charge of restoring a Cold War bomber says it will fly within the next three weeks.
The Vulcan bomber, one of a fleet that played a vital role in the Falklands Conflict defeat of Argentina, has been under restoration for eight years.
Project Engineering Manager, Andrew Edmundson, said the team had had a few glitches with the engines of the XH558, but these had now been fixed.
The plane is based at Bruntingthorpe airfield in Leicestershire.
Mr Edmunson, said: "It's the largest, most complex return to flight project that has ever been attempted.
"You're taking a very large aeroplane and putting it under the regulatory requirements of a complex category. The aeroplane is not complex in design but by size... so it means we have to treat this as if it was a 737.
"Even though we're not carrying the passengers, the work on the aeroplane has to be of that standard."
He said the bomber's engines were in very good shape and would be tested on Thursday.
The plane will have to undergo extensive checks before it can be cleared by the Civil Aviation Authority.
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Vulcan CG Slide Rule
Can anyone help me? I would like to buy or borrow a Vulcan CG Slide Rule for a talk I am giving in LA to the Society of Experimental Test Pilots at the end of the month. replies to [email protected].
big red V opportunity
Hey ! did anyone approach mr B of the big red V ?
The big red V supporting the classic mil' big V, GOOD CONNECTION -
Go for it Richard, YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU
bes twishes to all working on 558, terrifc effort all round which deserves
some BIG support & back up.
The big red V supporting the classic mil' big V, GOOD CONNECTION -
Go for it Richard, YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU
bes twishes to all working on 558, terrifc effort all round which deserves
some BIG support & back up.
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CofG Slide Rule
Vulcan
There is one on ebay should it meet your requirements
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Avro-Vulcan-B2...QQcmdZViewItem
should that not work ust type 260157841526 in the Ebay search box.
There is one on ebay should it meet your requirements
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Avro-Vulcan-B2...QQcmdZViewItem
should that not work ust type 260157841526 in the Ebay search box.
sorry to hear no joy with those requests exrigger, would have been a good flying advert for them i'd have thought, onwards & upwards anyway, with or without them,
best wishes to all for the first flight
best wishes to all for the first flight
Do remember that 'MrB' is in the aviation business - and any negativity resulting from sponsorship of an aviation-related project would reflect adversely on his core business. Idiotic journos would have leaped on the bandwagon, should 558's return to flight have been unsuccessful - and 'MrB' could hardly have been expected to accept such a risk.
But when 558 flies in the next few weeks (and Tombstone + rose keep their promise), potential sponsors may view the whole project in a new light. Particularly next year when no airshow organiser will be able to run a show without 558's appearance!
As for ba, word is that anyone showing interest in anything connected with aeroplanes or history is viewed as a potential risk to the bean counters who run the airline these days. But even 1% of the fine imposed after the recent price rigging scandal would have been better spent on 558.
But when 558 flies in the next few weeks (and Tombstone + rose keep their promise), potential sponsors may view the whole project in a new light. Particularly next year when no airshow organiser will be able to run a show without 558's appearance!
As for ba, word is that anyone showing interest in anything connected with aeroplanes or history is viewed as a potential risk to the bean counters who run the airline these days. But even 1% of the fine imposed after the recent price rigging scandal would have been better spent on 558.
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Originally Posted by Fugazi1000
Also - When she does take off, will it be from Runway 28 or will it be trundled all the way to 08?
Also - When she does take off, will it be from Runway 28 or will it be trundled all the way to 08?
On second thoughts, perhaps it's
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