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crikeys 14th Aug 2023 07:17

MAS 122
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-runway.html

das Uber Soldat 14th Aug 2023 07:52

16R is closed. Videos of some lunatic ranting about Allah from inside the cabin on social media. QF1 stuck at the gate. Police riot vehicles appear to be running around the airport. Just another day in paradise.

PoppaJo 14th Aug 2023 08:56

Almost identical thing happened over 5 years ago in Melbourne, same airline, and same bomb threat. Male was given a 12 year prison term.


ACMS 14th Aug 2023 09:19

There’s a 15 kt southerly

So, 99% of a/c are using 16L whilst 25 has been used for a 747 and a A380….

why can’t they use 25 for ALL departures and 16L for ALL arrivals at the same time?

they've cancelled a truck load of services due to the single runway movement rate….

the mind boggles…..

missy 14th Aug 2023 09:59


Originally Posted by ACMS (Post 11484527)
There’s a 15 kt southerly

So, 99% of a/c are using 16L whilst 25 has been used for a 747 and a A380….

why can’t they use 25 for ALL departures and 16L for ALL arrivals at the same time?

they've cancelled a truck load of services due to the single runway movement rate….

the mind boggles…..

100% agreed. I've seen 16L ARR and 25 DEP used in anger. 3 mile spacing RWY 16L, 1800m and airborne RWY 25. ATC could move a lot of traffic using this runway configuration.

Capn Rex Havoc 14th Aug 2023 10:40

Not sure a fully laden 380 bound for Dubai could take off on 25.

skotos 14th Aug 2023 10:45

According to flight aware they were doing 692 mph at 36,000ft on their way back to Sydney. Isn't that super-sonic?

ozbiggles 14th Aug 2023 10:57


Originally Posted by ACMS (Post 11484527)
There’s a 15 kt southerly

So, 99% of a/c are using 16L whilst 25 has been used for a 747 and a A380….

why can’t they use 25 for ALL departures and 16L for ALL arrivals at the same time?

they've cancelled a truck load of services due to the single runway movement rate….

the mind boggles…..

Maybe if it boggled a little bit harder it might figure out other things might have been happening on the airfield at that time

SHVC 14th Aug 2023 11:29

One thing has been proven, all WB can use 16L so no need to require 16R in the future just because you don’t want to taxi that far.

SHVC 14th Aug 2023 21:23

It has to be said, this was very poorly handled by AFP and SY airport corporation. 4hrs to remove the person in question effectively stopping operations into Sydney airport at a peak period. Twitter post at the time it was clear he was a nutter with his rambling the probability of a device is minimal if any AFP should have just entered the aircraft but I guess it would of taken 4hrs for the approval of stairs to be towed on A and then finding swissport staff.
SY airport should have been able to manage a regular flow, it took them 5hrs to NOTAM the use of A5 could have NOTAM RWY closed past B8 turbo props and NB jets could have maintained their schedule instead of the displacement of thousands of ppl.

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 14th Aug 2023 22:19


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11484891)
SY airport should have been able to manage a regular flow, it took them 5hrs to NOTAM the use of A5 could have NOTAM RWY closed past B8 turbo props and NB jets could have maintained their schedule instead of the displacement of thousands of ppl.

It wouldn't have been SYD Airport calling the shots. They'd just be following the directions of the police in regards to exclusion zones etc. I'm sure they wanted to get back to business just as quickly as everyone else did.

itsnotthatbloodyhard 14th Aug 2023 23:04


Originally Posted by skotos (Post 11484589)
According to flight aware they were doing 692 mph at 36,000ft on their way back to Sydney. Isn't that super-sonic?

No, it isn’t. True airspeed + wind component = groundspeed. (You’re not by any chance the passenger who got angry at a 767 crew for being ‘supersonic’ between Perth & Sydney a few years ago, are you?)

SHVC 14th Aug 2023 23:45


Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was (Post 11484910)
It wouldn't have been SYD Airport calling the shots. They'd just be following the directions of the police in regards to exclusion zones etc. I'm sure they wanted to get back to business just as quickly as everyone else did.


Fair enough. AFP alone handled it poorly. 4hrs to remove someone really?!

Capt Fathom 14th Aug 2023 23:50


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11484952)
AFP alone handled it poorly. 4hrs to remove someone really?!

And your reasoning is….?

ScepticalOptomist 15th Aug 2023 00:21


Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 11484953)
And your reasoning is….?

….4hrs is a LONG time to remove a pax from an aircraft. :ugh:

Max Tow 15th Aug 2023 00:35


Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist (Post 11484959)
….4hrs is a LONG time to remove a pax from an aircraft. :ugh:

Would it be worth considering the UK procedure under which security threats are sent to Stansted (to avoid disrupting LHR & LGW) where there is suitable remote parking and, I'm told, an on-call "welcoming committee" should the situation require?

flightleader 15th Aug 2023 00:37

To chase all passengers out of the international terminal building from midnight to 3am is also part of very poor management.

skotos 15th Aug 2023 01:26


Originally Posted by itsnotthatbloodyhard (Post 11484938)
No, it isn’t. True airspeed + wind component = groundspeed. (You’re not by any chance the passenger who got angry at a 767 crew for being ‘supersonic’ between Perth & Sydney a few years ago, are you?)

Nope, not angry. Just a sky watcher curious at how quickly they got back.

missy 15th Aug 2023 04:21

Normally AsA ATC would be requested to provide a representative to the Emergency Operations Centre to act as a Liaison Officer. Perhaps no-one was available due to Operational Requirements or perhaps the person available didn't have any ATC experience, or their input dismissed or overruled by the NSW Police.

Exclusion zones are published and scenarios would've been workshopped by all agencies, especially ATC and Sydney Airport based on the wind / weather. RWY 16L for ARR, RWY 25 for DEP seemed an obvious option but perhaps the 40 minute recall for RWY 07/25 was a factor.

neville_nobody 15th Aug 2023 05:03

What was the logic behind parking the aircraft at the end of the runway? What is wrong with a remote parking bay somewhere?


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