Any chance QF would rejig their bid and just go after Bravo Airlines?
Leaves the FIFO competition as it is and QF pick up another cut price jet operation. |
GN,
that makes a WHOLE LOT of sense to me . . . . watch this space. Oz2 |
Originally Posted by Going Nowhere
(Post 11280621)
Any chance QF would rejig their bid and just go after Bravo Airlines?
Leaves the FIFO competition as it is and QF pick up another cut price jet operation. |
I can't see them just buying Bravo. The core FIFO op is a goldmine of solid, guaranteed revenues, a Fokker fleet of scale (with the path towards replacing them with E190s), plus buying a much larger range of contracts, fleet and bases that Network couldn't replicate on its own. It's not just about access to another cheap set of drivers for the RPT operation.
Might be interesting to see if Qantas try to allay the ACCC's concerns by offering cheap E190 leases or sales to Cobham/Rex and Airnorth to allow them to scale up and bid for more FIFO contracts. Only issue is that Rio have just gone through a major procurement of their air services, so there isn't immediate opportunity for those guys to pick up a big chunk of work from the top end of town. |
Originally Posted by ebt
(Post 11281048)
I can't see them just buying Bravo. The core FIFO op is a goldmine of solid, guaranteed revenues, a Fokker fleet of scale (with the path towards replacing them with E190s), plus buying a much larger range of contracts, fleet and bases that Network couldn't replicate on its own. It's not just about access to another cheap set of drivers for the RPT operation.
Might be interesting to see if Qantas try to allay the ACCC's concerns by offering cheap E190 leases or sales to Cobham/Rex and Airnorth to allow them to scale up and bid for more FIFO contracts. Only issue is that Rio have just gone through a major procurement of their air services, so there isn't immediate opportunity for those guys to pick up a big chunk of work from the top end of town. The market currently has Alliance's share price around $1.30 under Qantas' offer price which suggests the market has decided it won't happen. There is no way the market would walk away from such an obvious arbitrage if it thought there was any chance of it happening. |
What is Bravo anyway? What assets do they have?
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Originally Posted by grrowler
(Post 11281056)
What is Bravo anyway? What assets do they have?
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I don’t think they own them? Or an AOC? Aren’t they just a bunch of pilot contracts featuring non-monetary incentives?
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Even if the ACCC allows this the big miners won't. They will start their own airline if need be. They hate supplier monopolies whether be unions or businesses noone gets to have one.
So if QF do get this through just watch for a new charter business start up in BNE or PER and suddenly pick up a few lucrative contracts out of nowhere. |
They hate supplier monopolies There are the Qantas owned companies. There is VA and VARA. There is REX and the NJE FIFO/Freight unit. Three companies, made up of different business units. |
Has the AFAP or TWU made a submission to the ACCC regarding this hostile takeover?
I can see very little benefit to the overall pilot community if yet another pilot group is controlled by Qantas. Imagine getting sacked from a QF group company. Without Alliance as an independent company it would make finding future employment in Australia that much more difficult. It would make moving to other entities (including mainline) significantly more difficult as well. |
Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
(Post 11282372)
Has the AFAP or TWU made a submission to the ACCC regarding this hostile takeover?
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
(Post 11282372)
I can see very little benefit to the overall pilot community if yet another pilot group is controlled by Qantas. Imagine getting sacked from a QF group company. Without Alliance as an independent company it would make finding future employment in Australia that much more difficult. It would make moving to other entities (including mainline) significantly more difficult as well. |
There are the Qantas owned companies. There is VA and VARA. There is REX and the NJE FIFO/Freight unit. |
Townsville Mayor knows what’s best for the aviation industry
Sorry, the link is behind a paywall and I’m not going to take out a subscription to a two-bit regional rag, but apparently Townsville’s bogan Mayor, Jenny Hill, aka ‘The Mullet’, reckons such a deal will be devastating to the regions. It’s not the first time she has poked the Roo in the eye. She has either a big set or nuts or she is brain damaged. Love Qantas or hate them, if you piss them off enough, you will feel the brunt of them. My money is on her being a complete moron.
https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.a...30a-1662031385 |
Originally Posted by Paragraph377
(Post 11288908)
Sorry, the link is behind a paywall and I’m not going to take out a subscription to a two-bit regional rag, but apparently Townsville’s bogan Mayor, Jenny Hill, aka ‘The Mullet’, reckons such a deal will be devastating to the regions. It’s not the first time she has poked the Roo in the eye. She has either a big set or nuts or she is brain damaged. Love Qantas or hate them, if you piss them off enough, you will feel the brunt of them. My money is on her being a complete moron.
https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.a...30a-1662031385 |
Staff travel isn't as great as outsiders think it is. If the airline paid us an extra $x I'd happily give it up.
What x is depends on your staff travel experience. Ruin a few family holidays and x becomes pretty low. Ask the NJS crew what their welcome to Qxxxxx experience was like.. |
Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
(Post 11289208)
The only Pilot group wanting this takeover to happen are the alliance Pilots. The improvements to staff travel makes people blind to the reality.
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I always ask my friends and colleagues how many times a year they avail themselves of staff travel, the answer is always a very low number.
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
(Post 11289208)
The only Pilot group wanting this takeover to happen are the alliance Pilots. The improvements to staff travel makes people blind to the reality.
you couldn't be more incorrect. I know a lot of crew there and none of them want anything to do with Qantas |
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