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FKNFKRFKD 18th Mar 2023 10:11


Originally Posted by chimbu warrior (Post 11404201)
An interesting take on scope clauses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifz8mXHtvH0

Australian pilot groups have a lot ro learn!

RealSatoshi 19th Mar 2023 03:33


Originally Posted by FKNFKRFKD (Post 11404323)
Australian pilot groups have a lot ro learn!

As said before....any EBA that does not include SCOPE as well as CPI+ is not worth the paper it is written on :\

It is the only way to stop the rot and put a hard floor under what is transpiring here...

neville_nobody 19th Mar 2023 06:37


Originally Posted by RealSatoshi (Post 11404670)
As said before....any EBA that does not include SCOPE as well as CPI+ is not worth the paper it is written on :\

It is the only way to stop the rot and put a hard floor under what is transpiring here...

You'll never ever be getting that on an Australian contract.

PoppaJo 19th Mar 2023 07:17

Strangely, the decision date has been moved from tomorrow to Thursday. :bored:

HappyBandit 19th Mar 2023 21:35


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11404719)
Strangely, the decision date has been moved from tomorrow to Thursday. :bored:

wtf? Why do they keep delaying it? They've had more than enough time to collate responses.

neville_nobody 19th Mar 2023 21:56


wtf? Why do they keep delaying it? They've had more than enough time to collate responses.
Maybe the Commission just had their Chairman's Lounges cancelled and they need a few days to negotiate it back:}

Sector3 20th Mar 2023 02:33

20/03/2023 Former provisional date for announcement of findings (23 March 2023) delayed to allow the ACCC to obtain further information from the parties.
20/04/2023 Proposed date for announcement of ACCC’s decision.

https://www.accc.gov.au/public-regis...iance-airlines

RealSatoshi 20th Mar 2023 02:54


Originally Posted by neville_nobody (Post 11404707)
You'll never ever be getting that on an Australian contract.

...and that is why Australian pilots should stop complaining about their conditions, frankly.

HappyBandit 20th Mar 2023 08:05


Originally Posted by Sector3 (Post 11405177)
20/03/2023 Former provisional date for announcement of findings (23 March 2023) delayed to allow the ACCC to obtain further information from the parties.
20/04/2023 Proposed date for announcement of ACCC’s decision.

https://www.accc.gov.au/public-regis...iance-airlines

20th April now. My $ is on another delay 7 days out from this date too. Something is fishy about all of this!

Slippery_Pete 20th Mar 2023 22:54

Maybe the ACCC have asked Qantas legal to draft what the report should say to sound legit.

blubak 21st Mar 2023 02:25


Originally Posted by Slippery_Pete (Post 11405694)
Maybe the ACCC have asked Qantas legal to draft what the report should say to sound legit.

Absolutely,as everybody knows they are never wrong & the deal is in the best interests of competition & lower airfares🙊

What The 21st Mar 2023 02:42

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ca5cc5b72.jpeg

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1c9d4fa840.png

Johnny_56 28th Mar 2023 10:18

I heard a rumour that Alliance pilots with QF start dates have been told they are now being treated as ‘internal transfers’ delaying their proposed start dates. Any truth to that?

Fonz121 28th Mar 2023 11:29


Originally Posted by Johnny_56 (Post 11410234)
I heard a rumour that Alliance pilots with QF start dates have been told they are now being treated as ‘internal transfers’ delaying their proposed start dates. Any truth to that?

lol. That’s some grade A trolling.

aussieflyboy 28th Mar 2023 12:35


Originally Posted by Johnny_56 (Post 11410234)
I heard a rumour that Alliance pilots with QF start dates have been told they are now being treated as ‘internal transfers’ delaying their proposed start dates. Any truth to that?

Apparently Qantas Pilots on the Alliance hold have been told the same thing.

soseg 28th Mar 2023 12:54


Originally Posted by Fonz121 (Post 11410264)
lol. That’s some grade A trolling.

They are however being held unusually long and people who interviewed after them have gotten start dates months ago.

Gnadenburg 28th Mar 2023 21:04

Anti-poaching arrangements appear to be illegal with a cursory read of the ACCC website. These rumours if true, would
bring the House of Cards down.

https://www.accc.gov.au/business/competition



I’ve heard Alliance is again haemorrhaging pilots despite non-financial perks designed to retain them. With what’s at stake, you’d think it prudent to let a few go to QF?

ScepticalOptomist 28th Mar 2023 21:09


Originally Posted by aussieflyboy (Post 11410291)
Apparently Qantas Pilots on the Alliance hold have been told the same thing.


​​​​​​​That’s gold, Jerry, gold!!!

DashTrash. 29th Mar 2023 12:02

Let’s look at US rates for E190
 
See attached. The land of opportunity, if you want a yearly figure multiply the hr rate by 1000 (very rough but good place to start) amount is also $USD


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0a7e14b34.jpeg

Icarus2001 29th Mar 2023 12:05

Then multiply that number by 1.5 to covert to the Aus Peso.


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