No it’s not that obvious Normanton, they go sick after a few weeks ground school then 2 years sick pay....🤭

Ahhhh, my mistake.

And then the company refers them to a specialist who says your can’t fly with that ailment you need an operation. But of course you can’t let the facts get in the way of a good story can you.

Why wouldn't you just make them redundant along with everyone else when jobkeeper ends.

Come on Dragonman maybe a case or two but everyone knows how many have rorted the system........It’s ridiculous...

Really , so a thousand repetitions equal the truth. Hear it often enough and you believe it. Everyone knows so I assume that includes you, so how many then?

approx 5
"..............

Dragon man, were all these over 65’s planning on bidding back to short haul pre-Covid or are they just hanging on now to milk it due to a serendipitous loophole?

If the latter, do you not think in the company’s current crippled state and given they can walk away having had virtually no ill effect on their career from Covid (unlike all of their colleagues), it is a bit selfish?

Not at all I’m sure they would all have taken VR except for the age discrimination

It's not age discrimination if it's legal dragon_man. Put your money where your mouth is and take them to court. Yeah just what I thought, take the package and enjoy the retirement.

You really are a f##kwit. As usual you open your mouth and put your foot in it. There are two actions happening . I’m sure you have read the AIPA legal opinion, then gone thru the act and look at the exemptions and finally got independent legal advice. I’ll bet you havnt?

You need to update yourself on what age discrimination actually is.
Not one of these pilots over the age of 60 joined after the retirement age for both Qantas and legal retirement age became over 60. Anything they have got is a bonus.
The unscrupulous who bid for a B737 slots after age 65 and then go sick have no other motivation than to cut out their unused sick leave at B747 hourly rates. Most of them never intended to take up the B737 training. They are dishonest pilots..Sick leave is for pilots who are sick or injured, not the unscrupulous.

I would strongly suggest that you ask the moderators if they are ok with language you have chosen to use.I would suggest it is libellous.

You also need to check what is libellous.
I have modified the words anyway.

certainly a shameful way to finish a career
***** your colleagues too.
charming

Nope, definately just an opinion

DM think you might need to go back to law school he hasn't identified anyone
& secondly he has just expressed a view that someone who claims sick leave monies when they are not sick are doing something wrong, many people
would think you might be breaking some kind of law doing that

The former Whitlam Minister Clyde Cameron used to write about this kind of behaviour in the Public Service . Way back in the day up until mid - 80s it
was a popular sport in the PS for mid to Senior managers to "go sick" for their last 6 to 12 months to exhaust any sick leave before retirement

Pretty amazing if it is still going on in a commercial business 40 years later , if it is occurring it's just greed and entitlement culture of former Govt Airline. & also bumped someone from
doing an upgrade course - but that likely didn't factor so much into their thinking

Yep I know 13 that have done it in the last 10 years, it’s all about Numero uno, ie themselves! It is totally ridiculous, and yes the Company has tried to take them on, but it’s a hard case when they bring Barristers for defence. Extremely easy to prove legally your unfit to fly, extremely hard to prove legally your rorting the system.

Anyway it isn’t going to be happening the next few years anyway, there will be no spots regardless.

AIPA actions? If so, I’m out. Don’t waste my dollars on those who’ve already seen so many extra benefits in their career.