Correct, ER is in addition to the 196 BUT come 2022 when the long term surplus was forecast..the 60 odd will be gone regardless if they chose to take it now or remain stood down for 2 years...the 196 targeted for VR would not be.

End of the day we had 188 binding submissions, with 60 leaving now under ER or forcefully come 2022, a 250 reduction or just shy of 20% in LH.

We all know what happens to the age demographic post 2022 - natural attrition to sort out any remaining surplus should the 380 not come back in full.

Im sure some SH folk will be waving goodbye in the years ahead too.

The ER pilots cannot be made to go while they are stood down, so don’t count on them leaving.

potentially a technicality which I’m sure QF are all over. I dunno...stand them up the day prior 🤷‍♂️

Care to explain that logic a bit more dragon man? Fujiroll has picked the solution!

Read the Christie case regarding inherent requirements of the job, there is no job.

The inherent requirements to be able to operate anywhere on the network are unchanged no? The fact that Qantas has suspended the network due to government directions doesn’t change that requirement.

By all means argue that in court. Lose and they’ve done their $$$. Win and QF will pursue something along the lines of Fujiroll’s idea, the 65 year old will still be retired, and the person arguing the case has has still done their $$$.

You have your opinion I have mine from a barrister , if you can be then please explain why there are a number of pilots stood down still here over 65? I’ll tell you why because Qantas know they can’t get rid of them.

Wow, a barrister. That’s very cool.

Which haul?

Why wouldn't the ER pilots elect to go and take what is on offer (whether or not it is appropriate) ? If they hang on they may not get anything.

because thatd make sense to anyone but the entitled generation

Another goose, because the leave that we accrue is greater than the ER in some cases for pilots that stayed in Div 3 super based on years of service times average final salary is icing on the cake.

In long haul

just like those that defend the 65+ short haul go sick scam

a rort is a rort is a rort

Surely getting on with a Healthy & Happy retirement while this Crap is going on would be a strong consideration? Not much going into the retirement kitty for the next few years.

You’ve already been shown the flaw in that argument. The longer prior to ER is enacted the more incorrect this assertion becomes.

I’m sure your barrister is rubbing his or her hands together at the prospect of running this case. They get paid either way. Who’s the real goose? Good luck!

You blokes are gold you know everything.

dragon, occasionally you post some stuff that is pretty good but you and I both know that there is no single pilot eligible for ER that will accrue more in leave between now and their 65th birthday than they will with the ER offer. These numbers have been done for you a couple of times now on Qrewroom.

But by all means run your legal case. Decrease that amount you’ll walk away with even further. Again, who’s the goose?

You because as I have tried to explain to you but you of course know better we are not going at 65 but will continue to accrue leave while stood down. The proof is in the pudding there are pilots in Long haul as I type this stood down over 65. That’s a fact.

Hanging around at 65 to get stand down leave accrual? Sad