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Bodie1 20th Jul 2020 23:20


Well done over there to them, they did what the gov asked and normality is returning.
What they don't have in NZ is a bunch of moronic state governments. One border around the circumference of the islands.

Point scoring, looming elections, playing politics. Doing what Australia does best, sweet FA.

Bodie1 20th Jul 2020 23:25


So did we, then a low paid security guard, shagged someone in quarantine so they could go to 7-11 and then shared their cigarette lighter with their mates, and we are where we are....
What you have is an incompetent Chairman, beholden to the unions and factions, warned against the course of action that led to this debacle.

No Idea Either 21st Jul 2020 00:18


Originally Posted by Visual_Approach (Post 10842226)
Great popcorn chat cheers fellas

Thanks Visual for the vote of confidence.......NZ is in a strong position but you never know........

No Idea Either 21st Jul 2020 00:24


Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE (Post 10841938)
100%

No one was thinking there was a second wave just around the corner.

Who thought there wasnít going to be a second wave. Itís happened in other countries. The medicos have been talking about it since the beginning. Most of the worst hit countries havenít even come off their first wave yet. I just hope itís not as bad and controlled better than the first time........VIC is showing the way :-(

Ragnor 21st Jul 2020 01:07


Originally Posted by Konyagi (Post 10842280)
Yet Qantas IR is still demanding 7 JQNZ redundancies???

Those 7 weíre in individual contracts I believe, they have already been let go at the start of all this.

ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE 21st Jul 2020 01:49


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10842362)
Those 7 weíre in individual contracts I believe, they have already been let go at the start of all this.

Why were pilots being hired on individual contracts?

chazwazza14 21st Jul 2020 01:57


Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE (Post 10842374)
Why were pilots being hired on individual contracts?

Canít be forced to join a union in NZ. If youíre not part of the Union, you canít be a part of the collective agreement. Hence youíre put on an individual contract. For all intensive purposes, the contract is identical to the collective agreement.

ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE 21st Jul 2020 02:05


Originally Posted by chazwazza14 (Post 10842377)
Canít be forced to join a union in NZ. If youíre not part of the Union, you canít be a part of the collective agreement. Hence youíre put on an individual contract. For all intensive purposes, the contract is identical to the collective agreement.

ahh, interesting.

So I guess those union fees really paid off for the NZ guys then

chazwazza14 21st Jul 2020 02:15


Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE (Post 10842379)
ahh, interesting.

So I guess those union fees really paid off for the NZ guys then


Iíve got no idea about the JQ NZ situation, but if those rumours are true they sure did. Pretty interesting QF/JQ can get away with that though...

Konyagi 21st Jul 2020 02:16


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10842362)
Those 7 weíre in individual contracts I believe, they have already been let go at the start of all this.

The redundancies have nothing to do with being on an individual contract.
The company has apparently come up with an optimised figure of approximately 11 crew per frame, which translates to an excess of 2 FOís in Chc, and 5 in Auckland. Six Chc Captains are also forced to move to Akl. All part of the long term plan to ďresize NZ basesĒ.

swh 22nd Jul 2020 01:40

I am not sure why the consensus seems to be hanging onto provisions of the EBA going forward, it has been said at various levels of government that these are unprecedented times, and the travel industry has been hardest hit. If there was ever a time to terminate an EBA in exceptional circumstances for an airline, it would be now with the majority of the fleet grounded because of governmentent imposed restrictions which have no foreseeable end. If we could see the end date of this it would be different, that is not the case.

The public interest going forward is for two viable domestic airlines, which will require significant downsizing from the current size. Cuts would have to go across the board, head office, catering, ground support/engineering, cabin crew, and pilots.

das Uber Soldat 22nd Jul 2020 02:10


Originally Posted by chazwazza14 (Post 10842377)
For all intensive purposes,

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0fe990f806.jpg

whatsyourbeef 22nd Jul 2020 02:13


Originally Posted by das Uber Soldat (Post 10843130)

Perhaps he was referring pacifically to renumeration. :}

Capt Fathom 22nd Jul 2020 02:23

pacifically ?


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6dc53a3dd8.jpg

whatsyourbeef 22nd Jul 2020 03:40


Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 10843137)

Sarcasm detector broken?

You missed "renumeration" too.

Going Nowhere 22nd Jul 2020 03:40

Somethink doesn't look right?

I've aksed around and no one has an answer

whatsyourbeef 22nd Jul 2020 03:41


Originally Posted by Going Nowhere (Post 10843154)
Somethink doesn't look right?

I've aksed around and no one has an answer

He gets it. :ok:

oldm8ey 22nd Jul 2020 06:14

For all intensive purposes it's a mute point. Are we really going to correct everyones grammar in one foul swoop? Surely there are bigger issues, like our boarders for example. Your just wasting you're time.

SixDemonBag 22nd Jul 2020 06:34


Originally Posted by mppgf (Post 10843194)
Borders is the word you are looking for and moot is the other one. And it's actually One fell swoop.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ae1391b4b7.gif

Xeptu 22nd Jul 2020 06:44

You missed "Intents and purposes" and "you're just wasting your time" I hope maths is your thing


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