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ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE 21st Jul 2020 00:49


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10842362)
Those 7 we’re in individual contracts I believe, they have already been let go at the start of all this.

Why were pilots being hired on individual contracts?

chazwazza14 21st Jul 2020 00:57


Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE (Post 10842374)
Why were pilots being hired on individual contracts?

Can’t be forced to join a union in NZ. If you’re not part of the Union, you can’t be a part of the collective agreement. Hence you’re put on an individual contract. For all intensive purposes, the contract is identical to the collective agreement.

ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE 21st Jul 2020 01:05


Originally Posted by chazwazza14 (Post 10842377)
Can’t be forced to join a union in NZ. If you’re not part of the Union, you can’t be a part of the collective agreement. Hence you’re put on an individual contract. For all intensive purposes, the contract is identical to the collective agreement.

ahh, interesting.

So I guess those union fees really paid off for the NZ guys then

chazwazza14 21st Jul 2020 01:15


Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE (Post 10842379)
ahh, interesting.

So I guess those union fees really paid off for the NZ guys then


I’ve got no idea about the JQ NZ situation, but if those rumours are true they sure did. Pretty interesting QF/JQ can get away with that though...

Konyagi 21st Jul 2020 01:16


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10842362)
Those 7 we’re in individual contracts I believe, they have already been let go at the start of all this.

The redundancies have nothing to do with being on an individual contract.
The company has apparently come up with an optimised figure of approximately 11 crew per frame, which translates to an excess of 2 FO’s in Chc, and 5 in Auckland. Six Chc Captains are also forced to move to Akl. All part of the long term plan to “resize NZ bases”.

swh 22nd Jul 2020 00:40

I am not sure why the consensus seems to be hanging onto provisions of the EBA going forward, it has been said at various levels of government that these are unprecedented times, and the travel industry has been hardest hit. If there was ever a time to terminate an EBA in exceptional circumstances for an airline, it would be now with the majority of the fleet grounded because of governmentent imposed restrictions which have no foreseeable end. If we could see the end date of this it would be different, that is not the case.

The public interest going forward is for two viable domestic airlines, which will require significant downsizing from the current size. Cuts would have to go across the board, head office, catering, ground support/engineering, cabin crew, and pilots.

das Uber Soldat 22nd Jul 2020 01:10


Originally Posted by chazwazza14 (Post 10842377)
For all intensive purposes,

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0fe990f806.jpg

whatsyourbeef 22nd Jul 2020 01:13


Originally Posted by das Uber Soldat (Post 10843130)

Perhaps he was referring pacifically to renumeration. :}

Capt Fathom 22nd Jul 2020 01:23

pacifically ?


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6dc53a3dd8.jpg

whatsyourbeef 22nd Jul 2020 02:40


Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 10843137)

Sarcasm detector broken?

You missed "renumeration" too.

Going Nowhere 22nd Jul 2020 02:40

Somethink doesn't look right?

I've aksed around and no one has an answer

whatsyourbeef 22nd Jul 2020 02:41


Originally Posted by Going Nowhere (Post 10843154)
Somethink doesn't look right?

I've aksed around and no one has an answer

He gets it. :ok:

oldm8ey 22nd Jul 2020 05:14

For all intensive purposes it's a mute point. Are we really going to correct everyones grammar in one foul swoop? Surely there are bigger issues, like our boarders for example. Your just wasting you're time.

SixDemonBag 22nd Jul 2020 05:34


Originally Posted by mppgf (Post 10843194)
Borders is the word you are looking for and moot is the other one. And it's actually One fell swoop.


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Xeptu 22nd Jul 2020 05:44

You missed "Intents and purposes" and "you're just wasting your time" I hope maths is your thing

airdualbleedfault 22nd Jul 2020 05:44

I'm chomping at the bit to see where this goes......

Australopithecus 22nd Jul 2020 06:26

A word of advise for you...

George Glass 22nd Jul 2020 06:51

Give Chazza et al a break.
It has been a deliberate policy of the Education Departments for at least the last 20 years ( 30 ? ) to undervalue History and Grammar.
Because policy is run by teachers.
And teachers think that rigorous learning , especially rote learning , is an expression of white privilege , post-colonial , Fascist , male-oppression......(insert grievance here)............
Not his fault really.

-41 22nd Jul 2020 07:21

Did you just assume Chazza’s gender pronoun.

Mach E Avelli 22nd Jul 2020 07:33

Could of been a mistake?


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