True, poorly worded on my behalf.... are they looking at 777 spots more than 737? 50/50?

Interesting website on VA The VA Source - Virgin Australia News & Information

With Virgin America sold off, and Virgin Aus aircraft shuffle, difficult to see how long VAus will last.

http://www.afr.com/brand/chanticleer...0161227-gtigph

Out of interest what does the sale of Virgin America have to do with anything?

Only as the Virgin financials continue to falter, Etihad potentially moving out, and Singapore increasing shares. With the recent losses, it looks like VAus last ditch efforts to avoid privatization or assimilation havent really been working out.

The situation at Virgin America looks very similar to what is happening with Virgin Aus, especially with the recent aircraft situations. In addition, Singapore is accumulating common shares, which have lost over 50% of the value this year.

That is why the comparison.

Agree the sale of Virgin America means nothing as there was never any real connection between the two. Virgin Australia is expanding is relationship with Delta and in mid-2017 Delta and VA will share the same terminal in LAX (2 and 3).

BTW if you did further searching you would have found there is a Qantas source as well

The QANTAS Source |

Most of the info on these sites comes from other sources and no 'ground breaking' info is on there.

Moving to the Delta terminal is not a positive move. VA was there initially and it is an old and decrepit facility. Not sure about this time around, but last time there were only arrivals at that terminal and all departures we're from the North Complex in LA, which is about as far as you can get from 25R, so extensive taxi time. Currently operating out of the new Tom Bradley terminal which is the brand new purpose built international terminal with all the bells and whistles passengers would expect. My guess is that moving to Delta terminal is cheaper, not better.

Terminal 2 and 3 will be getting an upgrade as part of Delta move from 5. The plan is for all of Delta's partner airlines to operate from the upgraded terminals.

I found it odd that one has to check in at the Virgin America Terminal in LAX and then walk over to the TBIT to depart.

I thought Borghetti was trying to look after these Premium guests of his?

I really dont think that you can say never on that one.

The whole VA and Tiger ownership and history is rather entertaining to say the least. With Tiger reporting a substantial profit and VA reporting a substantial loss, it is curious to see how they are working the books.

Cutting the E190 and ATR's for regionals?

Just some bizarre stuff going on.

I wouldn't call it a substantial profit. And why does that not seem likely?

And Qantas did the same with Jetstar a few years back. Jetstar reporting substantial profits, meanwhile Qantas (international) was making a loss.

Majority of the back end support functions (flight planing/loading etc) are all done by Virgin Australia.

I just note Singapore accumulating..up to 26% plus.

Virgin America didnt want to be taken over....but Alaska grabbed them and will likely assimilate VA.

Tiger lost millions upon millions from the day it opened. Within 6 months of Virgin taking it over it was magically profitable. Pity that Midas touch can't be applied to other areas of the business!

On the topic of profitability, the word is the 737 has been making a profit for Virgin for 16 years straight now...

Happy to be corrected!

Not quite, but not far off.


The main reason for the Ejet demise is that a fleet of F100's or 717's can be operated cheaper. (but not by mainline.....) Read into that what you will........

In the 2008 financial crisis the ejet was the only thing keeping the company afloat.

Tiger wasn't profitable until the 2015-2016 FY. The take over started in 2013.

Probably much easier to make a smaller company profitable than a bigger one that is majorly in debt.

and what year was the full take over?
for $1

Really Berealgetreal???

Are you just posting to get a rise? Coz I'll happily bite...

Are you purposely ignoring the 100-plus million dollars of debt that VA took onboard from SQ (or whoever the Singaporean lords were) when they paid the solitary dollar?

Fool!

Actually that was used to buy Skywest RAD ALT.

I'm not sure what you are referring to RAD ALT ALIVE. I was asking what year it was that the "$1" transaction took place nothing more.

Regardless, I'm pretty surprised at being described as a "fool" for doing so.

Can't think of ever insulting someone in 20 years of prune or in any other format for that matter.