Tommy Bahama is correct.Seniority is not the best system,but it is the best system available for the reasons given above.

Like it or not.

Seniority is the best speed hump to mitigate stupidity*.

(*stupidity being pole climbing or what ever creative circumstance presents itself.)

Skysook, could you please go back and read that EBA before you go sprouting off your opinion on what it says? The 10% is the minimum the company has to release. A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing...

Exactly. :*

Could you elaborate on your interpretation of this please?

Because my interpretation is that once they have released the 10% then there is no further requirement to release any more in that rolling 12 month period. The intent being to prevent the crippling of VARA pilot numbers. Ofcourse the company reserves the right to release more if they wish. I thought this was pretty clear.

I know of one VARA FO from F100 moving to the B737 so far.

...and one F100 capt moving to 737 FO.

Is that because not many of them want to leave that side of the operation? I hear the lifestyle is pretty good there?

Think the lifestyle is good everywhere bar 737 VAA east coast.

which is the majority of the VA group.

Anyone here please kindly advise how long it may/will take for referee checks please currently? Many thanks!

****WARNING****

VA are now recruiting direct entry to 737 domestic positions. If they offer you ATR do not accept! Unless of course you want to live in CBR or SYD for the next possibly 10 years (or you are a cadet). Given the current EBA that's a definite time frame.

Forewarned is forearmed

Start date is in august mate. Best bit is the candidate was originally offered ATR.

When you say eligible you mean internals? That seems a bit high but I'll buy it.

Morale? We don't need no stinking morale...

That's fortunate, because we don't have any!!!

It's cost saving, they don't have to backfill this way of course.

InZed this is what their website says TODAY.

Not what you wrote.You left out TWO important points. You could get a job in commercial TV news with those skills.

Here it is...http://careers.virginaustralia.com/m...ia-new-zealand

I feel sorry for the poor suckers on the ATR who will be stuck there for years. Not because it's a bad aircraft, but because guys off the street will get starts on the domestic fleet and earn twice as much from day one. I guess SA and JT were joking when they said ATR pilots were valued and part of the team. Turns out it's the leper fleet!

So no takers from inside VA for the F100 FO jobs posted today on AFAP? Surely the Fokker would be a better proposition than the ATR? Externals are not taking the dangling carrot on the F100 or ATR or 777 SO as they know VA are severly understaffed on the 737. Just a matter of time hey boys and girls? In addition the current ATR guys are leaving and will continue to leave on a weekly basis as they face a cap and can't transfer to the 737 as an FO or SO on the 777, except for several guys recently, and apparently out of order of seniority, equating to more that will walk.
Suddenly you have a fleet that will be grounded, Alliance will then also take all the NSW flying, the loyal customer will be confused as to why an Uber turned up after ordering the Silver Service Taxi, then as Johnny Young used to say after a great night of singing and dancing 'good night Australia'. Very sad...:confused:

Alliance turn up to do a Virgin flight.

Just like Cobham and Network do for Qantas.