I think you have to wait 6 months before you have access to Staff Travel so that may be the only fly in the ointment in the short term. Beyond that, as others point out it's pretty doable.

Blank Lines won't be great fun depending on where you're commuting from/ to but they're only every 18 months or so. With new crew coming on beneath you it could be even longer.

What is the deal with "7. Do you have the following hours accrued?" I (as many people would) meet all of those requirements and then some (except rotary). I just ended up ticking 250hrs cmd and 1500hrs co pilot box.

I picked from the top using the theory that everything below option 1 was a secondary choice?

Capt Fathom - to answer your question - FAM, and the TACM.

Companies such as Qlink, EFA, REX etc. are able to log PICUS from the right seat on PF sectors, provided they meet certain licence requirements, hence the confusion for some people and why it doesn't just state 500hrs multi-command like the good old days (circa 2007 for VB etc).

Clear as mud? Yep...:ok:

Friday 7th October notice
 

Just a reminder for internal candidates and some info for external interest
This from the Chief Pilots Friday message
"The Expression of Interest for internal Group pilots will close this Sunday 9 October and the recruitment team will begin to review applications on Monday 10 October.
Today, I’m pleased to announce we are opening up pilot recruitment to the rest of the industry.
This will allow us to build a pool of external applicants who we can recruit into the business based on course availability, internal applicant release dates, and flying requirements.
If you know anyone who is interested in applying for a position with Qantas mainline they can apply here or simply direct them to the Qantas careers website. If you have any questions about pilot recruitment please send them to [email protected].
Importantly, entry into Qantas for all candidates will be merit based and for internals, commencement dates will be subject to operational requirements from the departing Group AOC. We are working closely across the AOCs to facilitate this process."

What commitment? These pilots were never guaranteed jobs with QF.

Perhaps during the years sitting in an air-conditioned regional jet/turboprop they forgot that that they still had to compete with "real-world" candidates and just dropped the ball.

No sympathy.

Fog buster,
Probably the first taste of real world experience for these ex cadets to be bypassed.
The ones that were given the first go at the cherry should be grateful. The recruitment process should have been opened up industry wide from the beginning.
Merit based........lol.

Anyone get the feeling qf are trying to do their recruiting inside of Australia only?

Yeah ek dont want em poaching so sent a memo to hr
:p

Lol. Thanks for the giggle.

Arearuleace, at the end of the day you have to make a decision on how to approach this and be comfortable with the outcome. Personally it doesn't bother me- although it'd make sense for you to have an answer prepare were you to be asked at interview about it- but I've no idea as to whether the respective recruiting systems are that closely linked to even be aware. If they were the next question is how it's viewed by the HR boffins that do the initial screening prior to the assessment Center. I'm not sure anyone on PPRUNE can answer either of those questions for you.

Someone asked when the next DE course is. I'm not sure there will be an all DE course. More likely their will be hybrid courses of trainee S/Os from group sunsidiaries as well as DE courses. Given the lead times I suspect early next year ( Feb is best guess) is likely to be the first external applicants to be on course. Of course, if we bleed the subsidiaries too quickly perhaps they'll put on a fluke of external DE courses to ease the burden for a short time but the preference has been stated publicly to take group pilots first.

I suspect the answer is hidden in the text of your outburst.

Qantas Mainline has no interest in employing A330 second officers, they are interested in employing future Captains.

Most pilots employed by Qantas, stay in Qantas for the duration of their career.

And, to their credit, they haven't said "no, never" - they've said take 12 months and sort your **** out.

I don't have any issue with that.

Sorry for the thread drift, but why is QLink recruiting pilots from Canada? Is there not enough young guys and girls in Australian GA who want to progress to turbine/multi-crew?

The paycheque on offer would be my best guess. I know a few guys who took other offers after being interviewed based on pay and bases and ended up with better gigs.

QantasLink advertising outside of Australia is NOT Qantas.

Qantas does not operate Dash 8s. QantasLink operates heaps of them. They are two distinct and separate recruiting processes.

hotnhigh - I can't quite understand your logic here. The cadets had been through the Qantas recruiting process before, and as such Qantas had invested time and money into them. In some ways they were already a 'Qantas product' and therefore of course Qantas is going to look at them first before recruiting afresh.

They subsequently made them resit the recruiting process because of the time elapsed and in a display of genuine integrity some were deemed not suitable. That does show people are recruited on merit based performance.

If you don't understand that of course Qantas is going to start with the cadets who had previously been successfully recruited then I suggest you take a breath and rethink it.

Hi.


A friend of mine who is a pansexual, gender fluid Otherkin is keen to apply but (as seems to be a common theme amongst overseas cadets!), falls agonizingly short of the required PIC time.


Ze does astral travel on a regular basis and during such journeys says that they experience a dimension whereby they do engage in an operation that lets them log PIC time.


While ze doubts that they could include this as PIC time, I guess the biggest question ze has is whether or not designated safe spaces are allocated on board the long haul aircraft Quantas operate?


Any help or advice is much appreciated :ok:

We're a bit off a full moon yet. Come back next week Compy

Keep it real.
The whole point is the recruitment process isn't a recruitment process, it's a culling process. Merit is difficult to quantify, Qantas has no allegiances to any particular group of pilots. If It was, then of course the ex cadets would all be placed accordingly. And because of this, it must be remembered the process is there to take out or eliminate candidates.
My reference to ex cadets was so they are fully aware of the process.
They will be very lucky to be given another opportunity within a year. It's a deep deep pool that is available to Qf. They wil cull whoever and however. Sadly, good and bad will miss out and good and bad will be successful.
Unfortunately, in this day and age of hr processes, recruitment cannot occur with a chat and afternoon at the pub. Much more revealing in the real word.
I wish all success in their endeavours.

Keg in regards to the applications being linked im about 98% sure they are. I'm pretty sure that all Qantas group recruiting is done through the taleo website which will have your seperate applications for different group airlines under your one name. If that makes a difference to hr I'm not sure but I myself wouldn't hold back on applying for mainline just because I had an application or was even on the hold file for qlink

I believe HR is a group department.

Yes it is. And individual members of the 'talent acquisition team' (that's their official title) work across the group. There is a chance that some HR people who interview for QLimk F/O positions may also interview for mainline gigs.

However mainline pilot recruitment is run by Flight Ops HR and borrows resources from talent acquisition as the need arises. Flight Ops HR may still have a dotted line reporting chain to Group HR but that doesn't man that they're engaging on a daily (or even weekly) basis with QLink pilot recruitment. From my discussions with them the link seems to be more strategic rather than tactical.

JC31 could well be correct though that the Taleo website automatically 'dogs you in' if you've applied for a couple of different gigs within the group. Personally that wouldn't stop me. I'll ask the question of the HR people next I come across them as to their thoughts on the issue but that's unlikely to be before applications close. I know for sure a number of the pilot assessors consider it eminently sensible but they don't get a say in who gets interviewed.

Good luck everyone.

"talent acquisition" fancy name!

I wouldn't get worried about multiple applications! In the last round of recruitment (even if it was 8 years ago) people were offered mainline interviews/positions after initially applying/testing for qlink. Wanting any job in the QF group looks good.

The sad reality group airline applicants don't seem to acknowledge is that your chances could be less purely because you are in a subsidiary airline that needs crew too. Some make it across to prove you can but there are heaps of external to QF group quality applicants that don't leave a hole in a subsidiary to fill.

Good luck to all that apply. You won't regret it.

The good news for those that do get into QLink at a relatively young age, the focus on mainline is to maintain group loyalty and you'll be considered for mainline after doing a min time in the Link and going through the mainline selection process of course.

Edging ever closer to a group seniority number system.

Thought I might repost this here as mods moved my original to GA forum.

Does anyone know if Qantas accepts pilots through their medical screening if they are colour blind but have a Class 1 and passed the Farnsworth Lantern test?

Thanks in advance

SCOH

While that's great news that Qantas is looking to take care of its group it's disappointing that some people who have held out on going to opportunities else where in the group knowing that they would hire soon and held out thinking it was the right thing to do only just to try and leave 12 months in might be held out in the future.

Hopefully there's enough slots for externals that those on the outside have a real chance!

You have a funny sense of humour Keg, they can't even get seniority to work within the subsidiaries.
The only reason they are even contemplating keeping pilots within the group is they know they will leave if they don't (as the Cadets who were knocked back have), and this way they get a known product and can use the 'promise' of a Big Q gig as a carrot.

You're probably correct Rob. It still seems like they're edging closer to a group list.

Anyone got any info on the type of questions asked in the video interview. How does it work, are you prompted with the question and a timer starts??

Have they started the video interviews mate?

How it use to be done
 

https://youtu.be/i4eaDVjStH4

Behavioural interview. Question shows up. You have 30 seconds to prepare before the video automatically starts. You can finish the answer you reel or the video stops automatically afte the allotted time- can't remember if it's 2:30 or 3 minutes.

150 now to the A330?

And potentially 737 F/O slots within the first 12 months for those that join before the end of 2016 is the other part of that rumour.

^^^ Would potentially be perth or adelaide not east coast.

Video interview. 10 questions. 30 seconds to prepare for each one then 3 mins to answer each one. All behavioural scenario based questions. Good luck

Virtually impossible to tell. Mid 2017 means possibly 100 new joiners in front of you. Many of those will likely be keen to take promotion but will they be prepared to move? Depends too on where the movement is further up the chain.

Couple of other things worth noting. Expect things to move pretty quickly in terms of the application process. I expect pilot assessment centres (the bit after the online testing) to be occurring between mid November and mid December.

The internal news email broadcast says north of 500 external applications so far so expect it to be competitive.

Does anyone know if they have started going through applications yet and offered the psychometric testing?

Second that, thanks for all the info over the last few weeks Keg. It's been really helpful!

That psychometric was painful! Think I need a stiff drink and a rest!