Originally Posted by Flyboy1987
(Post 10386688)
Would a skippers dash 8 pilot have the exact same chance as a qlink pilot at getting an interview? |
Unfortunately the selection process is not bullet proof. I’ve seen some great, hard working, honest people get knocked back, while others who I would not let my dog fly with get through. Some get friends to do the initial TalentQ testing for them, some tweak some documents to meet minimum requirements. HR think they are getting the best people for the job, but in some cases they are being played. Not saying all, but definitely some out there. |
Originally Posted by startno1
(Post 10387228)
Some get friends to do the initial TalentQ testing for them
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Originally Posted by spondonicle
(Post 10387311)
Verification at the assessment centre would usually filter those honest people out.
This happened to the ones I know of and they got through on the second go. No idea why they give a second chance on this. Seems to defeat the purpose of the verification to me. |
Originally Posted by startno1
(Post 10387228)
...while others who I would not let my dog fly with get through. |
Originally Posted by startno1
(Post 10387355)
Yes that is the idea I guess, but for some reason QF give people a second chance if their results on the assessment day (verification) don’t match up with the initial online tests. This happened to the ones I know of and they got through on the second go. No idea why they give a second chance on this. Seems to defeat the purpose of the verification to me. |
If you haven't already started with QF then I agree you have missed the boat.
Thats not saying you won't get a start date, but you have for sure missed the seniority train. Expect a long career as FO. |
I think you mean...
Originally Posted by rep
(Post 10387423)
If you haven't already started with QF then I agree you have missed the boat.
Thats not saying you won't get a start date, but you have for sure missed the seniority train. Expect a long career as |
Originally Posted by Slezy9
(Post 10387430)
I think you mean...
Join now and your ~400 behind since recruitment started in 2016. SO time will most likely drop as huge amount of guys retire, but you can expect a long time as FO because there is literally 400 new joiners in front of you. If you don't like SO, you can still get Perth 737 F/O in the first month subject to training availability. If you are still looking to join QF, I would be praying for more 787 orders. |
Originally Posted by rep
(Post 10387474)
SO time will most likely drop as huge amount of guys retire, but you can expect a long time as FO |
Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
(Post 10387491)
That doesn't make sense? Why would time as a SO differ from time as an FO due retirements?
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Rep is correct on this one, join now and you will have an extended career as an FO, join in 6 months or later expect to be an SO for an extended period. Those not at the start of a hiring boom are always disadvantaged here, and the start has definitely gone. There is no pilot shortage at Qantas mainline, and there never will be. There is a training glut, the system here takes a ridiculous time to train or upgrade, its not that the training is more intense or safer than other airlines it’s just the mainline way , especially in long haul. This takes pilots out of the system for long periods so there is a perceived shortage. When the training slows and it will, hiring will slow dramatically as well, to the point of stagnation again. Its a great place to work and it’s fantastic seeing new faces but if you are expecting quick progression through the ranks you need to expect to be dissapointed. |
Lest we forget that a large number in Mainline are 50+. In 15 years they will all be gone. If you consider that amount of time to be a long time then you have a point but if we assume that project sunrise goes ahead at some point and ultra long flying becomes standard then QF like everywhere else is going to have a major problem. |
There are a lot of high paying jobs at qantas that don’t require the left seat. |
Originally Posted by MACH082
(Post 10388270)
There are a lot of high paying jobs at qantas that don’t require the left seat. Im not saying it’s a bad place to get stuck in the right hand seat , it isn’t. You just need to be prepared for the fact that there is a good chance it will be longer than you think. This place is notorious for stopping recruiting and expansion at any sign of a hiccup or share price fluctuation, it’s as though group management are adverse to expansion in mainline, but that’s a topic that’s been done to death here. Project Sunrise I don’t see as expansion, it will be point to point but codesharing more ports that are used as stopovers. |
Can anyone shed light on if start dates are based on how well you did in the interview/sim etc or are they based on when you were placed on the hold file? Hearing conflicting stories...
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When I went through the process (many years ago), applicants were placed on the hold file in the order of their scores achieved during the testing/interview process and each course was selected from the top of the list. These days, the process is controlled by HR and we know that they are selecting applicants from certain profile groups out of the usual ranking sequence. |
It also depends if you’re an internal or external applicant. For internal applicants once you are on the hold file it’s up the your respective group company to advise a release date to Qantas.
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Originally Posted by Going Boeing
(Post 10391233)
These days, the process is controlled by HR and we know that they are selecting applicants from certain profile groups out of the usual ranking sequence. |
Originally Posted by Going Boeing
(Post 10391233)
When I went through the process (many years ago), applicants were placed on the hold file in the order of their scores achieved during the testing/interview process and each course was selected from the top of the list. These days, the process is controlled by HR and we know that they are selecting applicants from certain profile groups out of the usual ranking sequence. |
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