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down to about 5 at air un zud they reckon atm....
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Originally Posted by Aviatrix91
(Post 10142828)
Its 9-10 at the moment not + Not a bad place to be, East Coast jet gig in Oz with great crews and reasonable pay |
Originally Posted by Daylight Robbery
(Post 10138218)
And you wanted to be a pilot? Is this a millennial thing?
I don't wish to play the man and not the ball, but physics has got to be the lead contender for anyone serious about flying at high school. Bit more relevance than film studies.... I never went past Year 10, never touched physics, dropped out of High School, so I probably shouldn’t be flying then. Problem is I’ve got over 20k in Airbus time. Whilst I encourage all students to give 110%, Astronaut Maths and Science subjects are not pre requirements to fly big twins. If you want 1-2 year commands go to Vietnam low costs. Orange Star in particular could offer transfer back to home base at some stage. |
Education is a bit like experience - you wont understand the benefits until you have it.
There wont be an easy transfer to JQ Mainline from Vietnam either, you will have to go through the recruitment process again and start at the bottom on the Australian list. |
Do many take LWOP from Oz to chase a quick command in Jetstar Vietnam/Japan? Is it a practical option?
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Originally Posted by Konyagi
(Post 10144523)
Do many take LWOP from Oz to chase a quick command in Jetstar Vietnam/Japan? Is it a practical option?
That said, its a great option for guys without family commitments etc who are after an adventure - I haven't heard anyone regret doing it. Being able to choose between a Vietnam 320 command, Japan 320 FO, or B787 FO from around 4 years in is pretty great career path for those looking at joining JQ. |
Has anyone from hold file heard anything yet?? Losing hope here:(
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I wouldn’t worry too much. There is a regional shortage of A320 training capacity. So they are struggling to slot in training for new hires, plus upgrades. Plus the cyclic program. You’re ranked on the hold file depending on your background. The ideal candidate is a Rex Captain. The acceptable candidate meets the mins. If the ideal candidate joins the hold. They will jump you for a start date. When the ideal candidates run out. They will start the acceptable candidate. From what I’m hearing they can’t get enough or ‘any’ ideal candidates. There’s not enough to go around. So they are taking regional FOs. Single pilot multi engine guys and girls etc. |
So I was having a ‘chat’ with someone at Melbourne and got told that if I was to continue in the process I would need to discontinue any other applications with the greater Qantas group. Is this typical? I’ve had interest from a couple of my applications. I’m not even sure I want to leave my current job. Is this what everyone else had to do? |
Originally Posted by sta5fhl
(Post 10150871)
Why is it so difficult for JQ pilots who go overseas like Japan, Vietnam or NZ to come back after they have a bit more experience? A JQ recruiter said its always difficult to come back if you choose one of those overseas positions. Sounds like every airline in Aus is desperate for pilots at the moment anyway
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Originally Posted by sta5fhl
(Post 10150871)
Why is it so difficult for JQ pilots who go overseas like Japan, Vietnam or NZ to come back after they have a bit more experience? A JQ recruiter said its always difficult to come back if you choose one of those overseas positions. Sounds like every airline in Aus is desperate for pilots at the moment anyway
If you joined jq pacific/Asian/nz directly then there is no pathway back to aus AT ALL as the previous poster has pointed out. However if you took a jq aus position and then took leave without pay to one of the entities your base and rank you held in aus remains until you return. |
Depends how senior you get. Not many hang around 10+ years in Vietnam, if you are there that long with Management aspirations then that’s your opportunity to get back south. You need connections with executives.
Its been done before. I’ve done something similar before. Depends if you want leadership positions really. |
Originally Posted by PoppaJo
(Post 10151724)
Depends how senior you get. Not many hang around 10+ years in Vietnam, if you are there that long with Management aspirations then that’s your opportunity to get back south. You need connections with executives.
Its been done before. I’ve done something similar before. Depends if you want leadership positions really. So 3 years later (or a management shuffle, new CP etc) and your back to an A320 FO with 3 years seniority. The unions have recently taken this up with the company as a number of senior guys have had fixed term B787 introduction roles expire and don't want to return to lower seniority positions on the A320 fleet. This is all probably beyond the scope of this thread, but if you want a postion on the Aus seniority list take a job in Australia - then move around the group as you desire. There is no real back door into JQ Aus anymore. |
I have been on the hold for a little while and nothing has come through unfortunately. Anyone know the average wait times for a non Rex employee?
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What is with all this facination with Rex? I assume a large chunk of senior Jetstar Management pilots are all ex Rex or something? Mabye try and get a job on the Saab. Guaranteed job then awaiting on the bus! |
There’s no fascination with Rex per se, they just happen to demolish most of the ADL base and then some. I think it was just a lot of peeps on the hold file that all got the go ahead. Can’t be too many left at Rex! |
Originally Posted by notthisguy1
(Post 10160531)
I have been on the hold for a little while and nothing has come through unfortunately. Anyone know the average wait times for a non Rex employee?
how long have you been on hold file if you dont mind me asking |
What is with all this facination with Rex? I assume a large chunk of senior Jetstar Management pilots are all ex Rex or something? If you want to join Mainline or J*, join Rex instead of Qlink. You'll get there quicker. |
Originally Posted by Sykes
(Post 10161109)
Nothing to do with management. More to do with the fact that Rex pilots can go straight to J*. Qlink pilots are only released to J* or mainline at the rate of one or two per month, if that. So if J* want turboprop pilots Rex has the largest pool available.
If you want to join Mainline or J*, join Rex instead of Qlink. You'll get there quicker. so guys that are on hold file and not with rex have no chance???? |
At Jetstar, we do hire a lot of Rex pilots and perhaps to a lesser degree many Qlink pilots. There are pathways to transfer (I use the term loosely) within the group but if you're going to bother doing this, particularly right now, you're better placed to aim for mainline than Jetstar. I say this as a Jetstar captain, not because Jetstar is not a great place to work, I can assure all those interested that it is, nevertheless, Qantas currently is a much better prospect for those aspiring to get in the left seat one day.
Nobody has a crystal ball but the average age of a captain at Jetstar versus the average age of a captain at mainline might be a difference of perhaps ten years. In addition to that, the pay at least little better on the narrow body fleet and appreciably better on other aircraft. Qantas simply has more options for those that get bored, albeit Jetstar has more narrow body base options. If you do end up in Jetstar, have no fear at all, life will be very good however my guess is that a move to the left seat of a narrow body will be approaching fifteen years by the time the music stops, even if Qantas does no further expansion, by sheer weight of impending retirements, there is likely to be many more commands coming up over the same period of time. Good luck either way. |
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