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Brakerider 12th May 2016 20:45

Jetstar Aus/NZ Positions
 
Advertised last night for Australian/NZ based A320 pilots.

Guess this puts the whole ATPL thing to bed?


To be considered for a role in the Australian/New Zealand operations, you will hold:

Australian Air Transport Pilot Licence or a CPL with passess in all Australian ATPL subjects
Jobs - Job Details - A320 First Officers

skysook 12th May 2016 21:41

Is it only Melbourne base on offer? Or is that just the location of the interview?

The Green Goblin 13th May 2016 00:22

Once you're on the list you can bid to go wherever you like, subject to positions of course being advertised.

I'd imagine with the recruitment drive they've just announced, plus guys returning to qantas and replacements, they'll need a minimum of 5 a month for two years to get their numbers. They can't all go to Melbourne.

noclue 13th May 2016 08:31

How long is the wait list for a Brisbane or Gold Coast base?
Or is it still a SEQ base?

Duck Pilot 13th May 2016 08:43

Word of advice, if you want the job forget the location. Get the job first then negotiate it. I've got no affiliation with the Qantas group, however I'm adamant that Jetstar would have a very strong seniority list, start at the bottom and move your way up.

Good luck to all who apply!

no one 13th May 2016 09:08

The email also said they expect more to leave (QF MOU pilots returning) and they want to INCREASE the pilot numbers from 800 to 850 so my guess is it will be closer to 100 needed to be recruited.

ratpoison 13th May 2016 23:41


then negotiate it
Will somebody help me get back up from the floor? Now that was bloody funny. :D:D:D

Falling Leaf 14th May 2016 09:53

So what is involved in the recruitment process? Do you still have to pay for the psychometric testing, sim interview, Endorsement plus $10,000 'management fee'…..:yuk::ugh:

clear to land 17th May 2016 17:33

Average Captain age around 40-business model says no more than 65 aircraft for Aus. Conclusion-unless prepared for the offshore pay-cut you are signing up to spend many years in the RHS of a LCC or getting jet time to move to a real airline outside Australia-where conditions are also going down and seniority lists are now very long. The industry is not for those without stamina!

Density 17th May 2016 22:39

Well said cleared to land! :D

AileronsNeutral 18th May 2016 07:45


Do you still have to pay for the psychometric testing, sim interview, Endorsement plus $10,000 'management fee'…..
Can't tell you about the interview process costs but under the latest EBA the company will pay for your type-rating with the proviso that you will remain on the 'level 1' FO salary for 4 years rather than 12 months.

Currently basic narrow-body FO1 salary is $101075 (uplifts by 3% in July) but a prospective employee may only be offered employment under the Flexi-Line agreement (effectively 75% part-time) which would make it a basic of $74121. If employed under FL you must be offered full-time after 24 months from checked-to-line if you're not out of the cap of 10% of total pilot strength, ie only 80 pilots out of 800 can be on 'forced' FL. Pilots on Flexi-line can be rostered no more than 15 working days per month and will usually be rostered to 56 credit hours, any excess being payable, but are not entitled to work under the 'Highline' provisions of the EBA.

sahni 18th May 2016 10:10


Originally Posted by AileronsNeutral (Post 9379748)
Can't tell you about the interview process costs but under the latest EBA the company will pay for your type-rating with the proviso that you will remain on the 'level 1' FO salary for 4 years rather than 12 months.

Currently basic narrow-body FO1 salary is $101075 (uplifts by 3% in July) but a prospective employee may only be offered employment under the Flexi-Line agreement (effectively 75% part-time) which would make it a basic of $74121. If employed under FL you must be offered full-time after 24 months from checked-to-line if you're not out of the cap of 10% of total pilot strength, ie only 80 pilots out of 800 can be on 'forced' FL. Pilots on Flexi-line can be rostered no more than 15 working days per month and will usually be rostered to 56 credit hours, any excess being payable, but are not entitled to work under the 'Highline' provisions of the EBA.

Thanks for this bit of insight. Do you know if same/similar rules apply to Jetstar NZ?

Ollie Onion 18th May 2016 10:18

Jetstar NZ are hiring on the basis of a time bond. The Company will front the cost of the type rating and in return you are bonded for either 3 or 4 years (can't remember which). If you leave in that time then you owe them a proportion of the training cost. Its a pretty good deal.

sahni 19th May 2016 08:57


Originally Posted by Ollie Onion (Post 9379888)
Jetstar NZ are hiring on the basis of a time bond. The Company will front the cost of the type rating and in return you are bonded for either 3 or 4 years (can't remember which). If you leave in that time then you owe them a proportion of the training cost. Its a pretty good deal.

What is the value of this TR i.e. how much does Jetstar NZ 'charges' for it?

Falling Leaf 19th May 2016 10:51


Pilots on Flexi-line can be rostered no more than 15 working days per month and will usually be rostered to 56 credit hours
So get 1-2 days off more a month but only 75% of the pay. :ugh:

Funny how a lot of these 'part time' positions result in you working nearly as hard as a full time position; seems the only thing 'part' is your pay.

Cloud Cutter 19th May 2016 19:00


Originally Posted by Falling Leaf (Post 9381132)
So get 1-2 days off more a month but only 75% of the pay. :ugh:

Funny how a lot of these 'part time' positions result in you working nearly as hard as a full time position; seems the only thing 'part' is your pay.

Need some help with the maths?

15 - 11 = 4 extra days off per (roster) month.

If you work harder, you get paid more. It suits some of us to cram the work into less days, so I'm supportive of options like this.

AEIO-540 20th May 2016 07:37

Hi AileronsNeutral,

You are right about the salary starting at $101,075 for a Level 1 FO. But I don't know were you are getting that they are required to be hired as a flexi line pilot?

I think you will find that they will be full time pilots. So they then have the option of highline that gives you an additional payment per duty hour worked as well as duty time allowance. Average duty per year is 1120 hours per year.

These new pilots will not start until after July 2016 so they would be looking at
Base $104,107 plus $5.79 per hour of duty. Average duty hours per year equals another $6484 plus DTA of approximately $5756. Total salary excluding extra flying allowance or day off payments equals $116,347.

SHVC 20th May 2016 08:55

What is the difference between non high line and high line?

AEIO-540 20th May 2016 09:08

SHVC,

The difference is as follows:

A) Two roster periods per finical year can be reduced to 9 days off, But you still get minimum 132 days of per calendar year.

B) You can be rostered up to 8 Available days per finical year. These day still come out of your total work days so your not doing any more work just being rostered differently.

For these two things you get paid an additional $5.78 per duty hour.

AileronsNeutral 20th May 2016 14:22


You are right about the salary starting at $101,075 for a Level 1 FO. But I don't know were you are getting that they are required to be hired as a flexi line pilot?

I think you will find that they will be full time pilots.
I have no information on the contract that will be offered which is why I said they may be hired under flexi-line. This is based on the fact that most DEPs have been recruited on FL over the past few years as a matter of course, if there has been a recent change of mindset/policy in flight ops management then great.

qfpaypacket 21st May 2016 10:39

Hours in OZ at about 900hrs per year.
Average line Capt pay 250,000 - 275,000
Average line FO 160,000 - 180,000
A few bonuses and a fair bit of flying in there...........

framer 21st May 2016 11:27

Are Jetstar Aus pilots really doing 900hours a year or is that just Melbourne based pilots?

Requestflyby 22nd May 2016 02:27

Lots of hours around at the moment, most of the hours are on the east coast. Some SYD FOs are going to hit 200k with overnight allowances included, not including Super.

LongLats 25th May 2016 11:45


Looks like requests for the first round of psychometric testing have been sent out...
Do you know of people actually receiving psychometric test invites?

SHVC 26th May 2016 20:44

Redundancy??? You clearly don't have a clue think.

Going Nowhere 26th May 2016 23:17

At least 1 ATR pilot is now in QLink

SHVC 27th May 2016 04:07

So because "at least one ATR pilot has gone to QLink" that means guys are loosing their jobs?! Not one ATR,ejet or 73 pilot has been asked or offered redundancies.

He/She just jumped ship for his own reasons.

The Green Goblin 27th May 2016 06:13

A couple of years back guys were jumping qlink for VAR. in fact some guys turned down JQ for it.

If only you could see into the future.

SpyderPig 27th May 2016 06:36

I know one guy who's jumped from VARA to Air Naru. From what he tells me they are hardly leaving in droves or threatening redundancy. What type of experience are the people getting replies working with?

das Uber Soldat 1st Jun 2016 00:48

Anyone done the compass psychometric testing yet? Which exercises did they include?

Chips n gravy 17th Jun 2016 04:30

Hey,

Any updates on guys/girls getting interviews at JQ lately? It's all gone a little quiet! Surely they must be running low on FO's with Qantas starting to take pilots back??

ANCDU 17th Jun 2016 08:16

Hey Chips there were a few groups doing interviews at the Qantas training centre at Airport West recently, can't give you numbers its second hand info but apparently experienced applicants not cadets.

das Uber Soldat 17th Jun 2016 10:42

4 did the assessment day Wednesday, 4 went through today. Wonder how many they will take :o

LongLats 18th Jun 2016 10:04


4 did the assessment day Wednesday, 4 went through today
Has anybody on here been invited or heard from them? I find it a bit weird that people seem to vaguely know of people progressing through the recruitment process but I'd love to hear from someone directly who's had contact from Jetstar since throwing their application in.

das Uber Soldat 19th Jun 2016 00:40


Originally Posted by LongLats (Post 9412316)
Has anybody on here been invited or heard from them? I find it a bit weird that people seem to vaguely know of people progressing through the recruitment process but I'd love to hear from someone directly who's had contact from Jetstar since throwing their application in.

What's wierd about it?

And what do you want to know.

das Uber Soldat 19th Jun 2016 00:41


Originally Posted by KoolKaptain (Post 9412823)
What a surprise that no QLink drivers have been offered an interview. In Links eyes, their drivers must be so honored to work there that management has the right to prevent them from seeking employment with other companies. I suppose that the Lashings will continue until morale improves.

Do you have any evidence of that though? I'm told the entireity of VARA applied and to my knowledge none of them have been offered interviews either.

SHVC 19th Jun 2016 08:20

All the VARA guys had phone interviews which is more than what the QLink guys have got.

das Uber Soldat 19th Jun 2016 09:41

No joke. Well fair enough then. Everyone I know who went to the assessment day worked for smaller operators, had between 4000 and 4500 hours and are fo's

SpyderPig 19th Jun 2016 11:49

that's weird, no ones taking sick days where I am haha

atlas12 22nd Jun 2016 00:32


Originally Posted by Requestflyby (Post 9384401)
Lots of hours around at the moment, most of the hours are on the east coast. Some SYD FOs are going to hit 200k with overnight allowances included, not including Super.

Care to explain how you arrived at this number?


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