I’m already on hold, waiting for an offer of employment

Have you spoken to recruitment about hold times? Wondering how long wait times are for offers.

That’s what I’m trying to figure out, I asked and got the standard “we can’t say how long but can confirm you’re still on the hold file.” I’ve been on hold for 7 months now

I don't quite understand how the file works but seems weird to have such long wait times.

Yea it’s definitely not ideal. Seems to be either you get a call within a few months or you’re left stranded and there’s no inbetween. Here’s hoping by the end of the year at this stage.

Probably depends on the type rating training providers, and whether they have slots available at the moment. That's where the bottle neck seems to be.

There is an ENORMOUS training load at the moment, probably the biggest I've ever seen there. This isn't just direct entry, but includes command upgrades and cadets. The Melbourne base has very few line captains left that aren't either training or checking and the people left probably won't with good reason. Quite a few people have been allocated commands with no hint of start dates in sight based on the above issues. Sim time is also another huge constraint. Everything they have access to is usually at maximum capacity, plus they've had a few people fall over at various stages of training lately which increases the load further on the training system.

I know it won't help much, but sit tight, the call will come when they can fit in more.

I appreciate it, makes it seem a bit more hopeful. Hopefully it clears up at some point.

Aus vs NZ
 

New to pprune here. Can anyone tell me how the Aus and NZ Jetstar salaries compare? Reading this thread I’m aware the NZ package is much worse, but by how much? I can’t find actual figures.

It sounds like Aus time to command is fairly quick if you’re willing to relocate to an unfavourable base. What is the time to command in NZ as a comparison?

I worked in NZ before, personally apart from the money you get the living condition is better in Australia, well at least compared to Auckland, it’s just too expensive with lower quality in general compared to any major cities in Australia. It’s very subjective though, and on the bright side, NZers are in general very friendly and cool people to deal with both at work and in daily life.

Basically:
Jetstar NZ / Jetstar Oz
Salary FO Year 1: $111,361 / $124,204
Extra Flying Pay $150.54 65+ / $ Salary / 787 = 157.81 75+
ZQN Pay $3,000 on base pay / ZERO
$25.26 per entry / ZERO
Company Pension 4.5% of base / 11%

The NZ union did a recent pay comparison and it showed for a Jetstar NZ pilot doing 70 hours per month for 10.5 months (12 months minus leave) you can expect circa $140,000 per annum, for the same time and also 70 hours in OZ as an FO you can expect circa $175,000 (Kiwi Dollars). Obviously once you take the extra flying allowance and other contract allowances into account this gap just widens and it is not unheard of for an FO in OZ to push the 200k + mark whereas that would not happen in NZ. You become Queenstown rated with a little bit of extra training that can be done 6 months in. NZ gets extra flying pay over 65 hours per month whereas OZ gets it at 75 hours. Lots of little got ya's like in NZ there is no credit for sims every 6 months where as in OZ you get 11 hours per six months which can mean you are in overtime for that month. Over night allowances also vary quite a bit, in NZ you get $5.50 per hour from sign on to sign off in home base meaning for 24 hours away you get $132 tax free with no extra overnight allowance. In OZ the duty allowance is significantly more. Over all you will get a significantly better yearly pay in Australia. The NZ contract is currently due to expire towards the end of the year so you can expect the numbers above to be a bit better. If I wasn't tied to either country and had the choice I would go for the Australian operation every time, expanding operation, access to the 787, better pay etc. But hey, the choice is yours.

Very helpful thanks.

Any idea of time to command in NZ vs AUS outside SYD or MEL?

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Ages. Not unachievable but MEL/SYD are the biggest bases followed by BNE. The other bases are smaller comparatively, so the movement is usually slower.