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The name of my employer is of little consequence.
The points I've laid out will be better / worse depending on who you work for. 1 airline may give you great cash, but bad days off. And vice versa. Just be aware things are different here. The grass that's greener on the other side of the fence may have a few bindi's and thistles in it. Yet that same piece of grass can also be soft and lush. Enough with the metaphors and cliches. I can talk in cliches until the cow's come home. |
Yeah, what GIN has mentioned is regional airline and pilot contract specific. There is some disparity in Regional Airline pilot contracts. Contrary to what was referred to, I currently get four weeks vacation and average 16-18 days off per month. I’ve never had so much time off in my life. Using one week of vacation gave me 31 days off in a row in December and January. My per diem is $2.05 domestic and $2.60 international. That goes up to $2.15 and $2.70 respectively later in the year. My company pays for parking and 2 medicals a year including the EKG. My awarded schedule has never been changed unless I have changed it. If I have tomorrow off, I have tomorrow off; no junior manning or airport ready reserve. My uniform and luggage are fully paid for by the company as a new hire, and we get new uniforms and a selection of new luggage every year. Medical insurance has been great. I have never had any issues calling in sick and have never received so much as a phone call. I have also called off fatigued during trips and received full pay protection.
Yes, every airline and every pilot contract is different. Some of the E3 regionals have less than stellar pilot contracts and what GIN mentioned does exist. This is the reason some regionals are having trouble recruiting while others have full classes with a year wait list. |
Originally Posted by harvs17
(Post 10467698)
Yeah, what GIN has mentioned is regional airline and pilot contract specific. There is some disparity in Regional Airline pilot contracts. Contrary to what was referred to, I currently get four weeks vacation and average 16-18 days off per month. I’ve never had so much time off in my life. Using one week of vacation gave me 31 days off in a row in December and January. My per diem is $2.05 domestic and $2.60 international. That goes up to $2.15 and $2.70 respectively later in the year. My company pays for parking and 2 medicals a year including the EKG. My awarded schedule has never been changed unless I have changed it. If I have tomorrow off, I have tomorrow off; no junior manning or airport ready reserve. My uniform and luggage are fully paid for by the company as a new hire, and we get new uniforms and a selection of new luggage every year. Medical insurance has been great. I have never had any issues calling in sick and have never received so much as a phone call. I have also called off fatigued during trips and received full pay protection.
Yes, every airline and every pilot contract is different. Some of the E3 regionals have less than stellar pilot contracts and what GIN mentioned does exist. This is the reason some regionals are having trouble recruiting while others have full classes with a year wait list. |
Sure sounds like Republic |
I can tell you it's not PDT, Piedmont ha ha. having said that PDT still has better travel benefits that ANY other regional taking E3s.
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Does anyone really join an airline for the travel benefits? They are almost no existent! Maybe join to get more experience, or for promotion. But travel benefits? |
My experience in an Oz airline is the travel benefits were so so, I would use it very infrequently. It’s a whole different ball game living in a hub for the largest airline in the world. My family often has a weekend in Paris, or beer in Munich, weekend in Caribbean, day in NYC or DC, etc. it is very very worthwhile to us. I agree it worth different amounts to different people, but for travel junkies AA is unbeatable. We have rampers working part time for very low wages only to access the travel benefits and I can see why they do that. Each to their own and I respect your point of view. Cheers Ralphi |
Originally Posted by aviationluver
(Post 10469288)
What would yanks think?
If you're a white American pilot, you would be pleased another "brother" is joining you in the cockpit. |
Huh, what dribble is this?
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Originally Posted by Professional Amateur
(Post 10469322)
Huh, what dribble is this?
The "White American" crack makes me believe this is probably a right-wing, Trump loving yank, totally committed to the ideals of freedom and capitalism...EXCEPT.... when it comes to his profession. Then he's a card carrying, all-brothers-standing-together Unionist, wanting to keep out the dreaded foreigner. |
Originally Posted by aviationluver
(Post 10469288)
What would yanks think?
If you're a white American pilot, you would be pleased another "brother" is joining you in the cockpit. Checkout this guys post history... something not right about him. Just ignore the ramblings! |
Originally Posted by Professional Amateur
(Post 10469322)
Huh, what dribble is this?
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Originally Posted by Ralphi
(Post 10468368)
I can tell you it's not PDT, Piedmont ha ha. having said that PDT still has better travel benefits that ANY other regional taking E3s.
Also as per the post that supposedly occurred above, I have never once seen any speck of racism based on skin colour or immigration status, so need not worry about the perception you have of the USA via Youtube, CNN or Fox. |
Originally Posted by umop apisdn
(Post 10469938)
I'd probably be able to argue that I have better travel benefits as they encompass Delta, United and American, albeit at the lower priority than you. While you are correct that my airline does not take E3's anymore (RIP,) I'd say that any prospective expat looking at travel benefits as a draw card should take a regional with more than one mainline partner, as you'll get more destinations and more options.
Also as per the post that supposedly occurred above, I have never once seen any speck of racism based on skin colour or immigration status, so need not worry about the perception you have of the USA via Youtube, CNN or Fox. the aircraft are so full these days that it pays to have the highest priority possible to get a seat while non-revving. |
Go for a wholly owned regional if you can. If traveling on United you will get a higher boarding priority if you work for Expressjet or Commutair compared to Mesa or Trans States.
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Thanks u a, completely agree, zero, nothing, zilch in the way of racism in the cockpit here. re travel, my experience has been successfully riding on 142 legs in a row as an AA WO non rev without issue getting on. No way I would have been able to do that or even get close with the lower priority as a “partner” airline, also the vast majority of these flights including many international legs that were completely free! there is no comparison, AA WO is way in front as a new hire as unlike UA and Delta you have the same non rev rights as a 30 year captain immediately on start of employment. it purely goes on check in time to decide priority in class and our class is 1 or 2. As a partner employee you sit around class 5 or 6, hence the higher degree of difficulty in riding. (Not talking about the jump, just for non rev for employee and family) cheers Ralphi
Originally Posted by umop apisdn
(Post 10469938)
I'd probably be able to argue that I have better travel benefits as they encompass Delta, United and American, albeit at the lower priority than you. While you are correct that my airline does not take E3's anymore (RIP,) I'd say that any prospective expat looking at travel benefits as a draw card should take a regional with more than one mainline partner, as you'll get more destinations and more options.
Also as per the post that supposedly occurred above, I have never once seen any speck of racism based on skin colour or immigration status, so need not worry about the perception you have of the USA via Youtube, CNN or Fox. |
Originally Posted by Ralphi
(Post 10471479)
Thanks u a, completely agree, zero, nothing, zilch in the way of racism in the cockpit here. re travel, my experience has been successfully riding on 142 legs in a row as an AA WO non rev without issue getting on. No way I would have been able to do that or even get close with the lower priority as a “partner” airline, also the vast majority of these flights including many international legs that were completely free! there is no comparison, AA WO is way in front as a new hire as unlike UA and Delta you have the same non rev rights as a 30 year captain immediately on start of employment. it purely goes on check in time to decide priority in class and our class is 1 or 2. As a partner employee you sit around class 5 or 6, hence the higher degree of difficulty in riding. (Not talking about the jump, just for non rev for employee and family) cheers Ralphi |
Does the relative lack of recent chatter in this thread mean no more Aussies are headed up here or that it's just become so common that no further discussion is merited ?
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Originally Posted by bafanguy
(Post 10488533)
Does the relative lack of recent chatter in this thread mean no more Aussies are headed up here or that it's just become so common that no further discussion is merited ?
I can confirm that currently the following operators are interviewing and hiring E3 Australian pilots. Go Jet, TSA, Commute, Mesa, Air Wisconsin, Express Jet and Piedmont. Good luck to anyone giving it a go and get it while it's hot! |
Originally Posted by Captain.Crunch
(Post 10488548)
I recently interviewed and have been offered a position with an operator, starting later this year. I've also been offered a few other interviews which I'm yet to accept, as the one I've had already was first choice.
Good luck to anyone giving it a go and get it while it's hot! Glad to see you're having great success. Always good to have a Plan B in hand though. And your advice to get in while the gittin's good is sound. You never know when all this stuff will turn around. |
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