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AAWW (Atlas/Polar/Southern), is in the midst of a VERY contentious contract negotiations with their pilots. One of the big problems facing airline management, is lack of crew, as the pilot contract is way below standard, so not many pilots want to join. The company is desperate to find pilots, and the harder it is to crew the planes, the better it is for the pilots in negotiating a new contract.
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
(Post 10526618)
AAWW (Atlas/Polar/Southern), is in the midst of a VERY contentious contract negotiations with their pilots. One of the big problems facing airline management, is lack of crew, as the pilot contract is way below standard, so not many pilots want to join. The company is desperate to find pilots, and the harder it is to crew the planes, the better it is for the pilots in negotiating a new contract.
Nevertheless, great guys at Atlas Air though. Always got treated well when jumpseating from US to overseas and vice versa. Really wish they get a good contract soon. |
Originally Posted by JoeTripodi
(Post 10526545)
Frontier and RFDS pilots ? Yeah ok, with all that 121 multi crew time and an FAA licence. /s |
I dont think Spirit has had trouble getting applications nor do I think Frontier does with the improved contract. They are places you go to from a Regional. They aren't jobs for people with no US part 135 or 121 time unless you are transferring from the Military.
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Originally Posted by pilotchute
(Post 10527243)
I dont think Spirit has had trouble getting applications nor do I think Frontier does with the improved contract. They are places you go to from a Regional. They aren't jobs for people with no US part 135 or 121 time unless you are transferring from the Military.
sounds like they are expecting a massive ramp up and are getting their ducks in a row. lets face it, the E3 thing is but a drop in the ocean of what they will hire, along with their Purdue grad program and other many streams they have. |
Originally Posted by havick
(Post 10527337)
dont shoot the messenger, like I said it was from the horses mouth at Frontier
lets face it, the E3 thing is but a drop in the ocean of what they will hire, along with their Purdue grad program and other many streams they have. Yes, that's a pretty good source you have there. Not sure where else one would turn for better info. I suppose these airlines consider lots of things that may or may not come to pass. And when we plebes hear of them, it isn't always understandable. |
Originally Posted by bafanguy
(Post 10528301)
Yes, that's a pretty god source you have there. Not sure where else one would turn for better info.
I suppose these airlines consider lots of things that may or may not come to pass. And when we plebes hear of them, it isn't always understandable. seems like a decent strategy going forward for them to keep the place staffed when retirements peak in about 6-7 years. |
Originally Posted by havick
(Post 10526144)
He mentioned they’re currently looking at a batch of rfds guys as well as those currently in the US flying for regionals.
“Haugaard outlined another workaround to the U.S. rule that Horizon is considering. He said Alaska Air is in discussion with “a major international airline” about a plan to have prospective pilots go overseas, “operating under different rules,” and build up their 1,500 flight hours flying for the foreign airline in a Bombardier Q300 turboprop, an earlier variant of the Q400, then returning to the U.S. to fly for Horizon.” ?A painful and frustrating experience?: Horizon Air scheduling havoc will continue into the fall | The Seattle Times https://www.pprune.org/images/status...er_offline.gif |
Originally Posted by bafanguy
(Post 10528987)
These airlines kick around lots of ideas particularly now when pilot supply (one way or another) is an issue. Sometimes we get to hear about them...often we don't. This is my favorite one re Horizon Air from two years ago. What became of this ?:
“Haugaard outlined another workaround to the U.S. rule that Horizon is considering. He said Alaska Air is in discussion with “a major international airline” about a plan to have prospective pilots go overseas, “operating under different rules,” and build up their 1,500 flight hours flying for the foreign airline in a Bombardier Q300 turboprop, an earlier variant of the Q400, then returning to the U.S. to fly for Horizon.” ?A painful and frustrating experience?: Horizon Air scheduling havoc will continue into the fall | The Seattle Times https://www.pprune.org/images/status...er_offline.gif |
Yeah but in that case they’re only worried about the 1,500 hours TT to get an US ATP. |
Aus pilots
hi guys any idea if frontier hire direct entry e3?? If so is it possible to apply online or is it through an agency?? cheers arena1 |
Originally Posted by flying-spike
(Post 10529379)
The only trouble with that idea would be that the magic 1000 hours for command has to be operating under FAR 121 not RPT under another regulator
It appears you would both be correct. But if Horizon had carried out that rather unusual plan, it would just be to get butts in seats. Apparently, they didn't follow through on it. It just demonstrates how creative airline recruiting ideas can get. arena1, I doubt there'd be an agency involved were Frontier to carry out their unusual idea. Time and havick will reveal events should they unfold. You can apply to Frontier here and see what happens: https://www.airlineapps.com/jobs/det...=First-Officer |
Arena1,
put in an app and find out. Only issue would be not having an FAA ATP and the other associated things that come with it like FCC licence, medical etc. With any recruiting the lower the risk....or the more of a known entity someone is the higher the chances of being hired. With that in mind I would presume all things being equal that they would go for someone who is under two hours flight away and can start training within two weeks..... Thats a bit of a no brainer. With that said...... Its just speculation without knowing the competition OR knowing what they want. Put an app in and let us know how it pans out. Good luck. PA |
Originally Posted by arena1
(Post 10529387)
hi guys any idea if frontier hire direct entry e3?? If so is it possible to apply online or is it through an agency?? cheers arena1 the only way to apply is directly through airlinepilotapps |
Originally Posted by Professional Amateur
(Post 10529816)
Arena1,
put in an app and find out. Only issue would be not having an FAA ATP and the other associated things that come with it like FCC licence, medical etc. The only question that comes to mind is whether apps are filtered by computer to eliminate those who don't meet min requirements. If so, without FAA tickets, your app might never get in front of Frontier HR eyes. The only way around that might be having an official Aussie program in place. But then, I can only guess. |
Aus pilots
thanks for the replies cheers arena1 |
Calling all Skywest FOs
Any Skywest FOs out there that are at or close to their 1000 121 time and want to upgrade?
CommutAir is paying 50k signing bonuses, and 10k referral bonuses for direct entry captains. We all need a little extra cash in our lives, so come get that turbine pic while it's hot. On a serious note, CommutAir can't get their hands on Captains quick enough for the current expansion that is happening. It's a 3 month training footprint and very short reserve times. If anyone is interested, you know where to find me. Cheers, Socks |
Bit skint this week socks?
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Originally Posted by pilotchute
(Post 10536689)
Bit skint this week socks?
On a higher level, a little birdie tells me you E-3 folks might want to keep an eye on LCC, Frontier, for a possible opportunity for you. Might happen...might not but stay tuned. |
I'm all about the opportunities on offer. With the rumblings of acmi cargo and lcc on the horizon, I suspect the real opportunities for E3s is yet to come. The retirement wave hasn't even started either.
Make no mistake though, any step up from the regionals and you will be competing hard with your Americans counterparts, and they are no joke. So we need to be competitive. Whether that is having turbine PIC, or other extra curricular resume additions that the Americans typically have is up to you. In any event, the next few years will be very interesting. |
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