Jetgo - have they gone?
 

Wondering what the latest is with Jetgo?

Are they still planning to launch RPT or given the state of domestic aviation, have they decided to stay with FIFO/ Charter etc.

Would anyone have any information regarding either 'planned' expansion or their current operations?

JETGO
 

They have just sent engineers to the US to do technical acceptance on two ERJ145's .. Believe they are starting services around September 1st. They still are hiring crew, two more at Flight safety as we speak. Good company by all accounts AND they pay their bills on time and look after the crew. :D Also fitting out a new corporate office in Sydney. Great to see this company maturing and able to give the industry a decent jobs flying late model jets in an industry that is so turbulent

Reading it as a non-precious* outsider I thought that the title was a neat play on words.

*I fly for QF. We aren't precious, are we?;)

hope you don't fly for QF International or you might be looking for a job at the likes of Jetgo very soon. The pay won't be at insane QF levels.

I believe they are neck deep in the Search and Rescue tender also

There worse things than flying for QF international, BNEA320. You are living proof of that.

Ummm, how did this become a thread about Qantas??

It was me having a self piss-take. But its not about QF apart from that. And the OP's question was asked and answered.

Well Hawkerxp, oh contraire!

A little too much venom in those words not to respond.

Given a Google search last week revealed the Jetgo site had disappeared with an odd hosting? site in its place, its a very fair title. Given also the now restored website's 'Media' tab has not been updated since 2012, its very much a fair title.

As for the crew - well, if they're busy operating new aircraft, training in the US, accepting new ac's, fitting out new offices etc., reading this will have absolutely no effect.

May I proffer you, in fact, do a little searching before condemning!

yes but when QF INT is no more, lots of very well paid QF pilots will either have to go offshore or work harder for a lot less.

Sigh. XPT, thanks for the insight.

I remember a few years ago a small jet charter operator who ventured into RPT, that had guys half way through endorsements in the states the day they shut their doors... Just saying.

Nulli perhaps you should try going to the correct website jetgo.com instead.

Did that. Site simply was not there.

That's pretty funny.
I just googled "jetgo"

No problem. Found this.
http://www.jetgo.com
Which appears to be an active working website.

WEB Site
 

I am told they a couple of weeks away from launching their airline website and that the downtime was caused by a change in hosting server.

did Jetgo make a huge mistake by getting aircraft with MTOW of 20,000kgs ?


If they had been 19,999 kgs they wouldn't have any security requirements at airports.


Are they going after some thin RPT routes due to mining going quiet or loss of FIFO mining contracts.

Good point... adds extra cost to the whole picture XPT.
Their selection of the EMB was based off thin, niche routes for a start, hence their selective choice of "ER" models.
It's a tough market in Australia and very cut throat and the Townsville refueller tells me that they don't have long to last.

So speaks the man in Crocs
 

That's it. The Townsville controller has said it. Staff should be lining up for redundancy!

Awww Chocks, you do try hard there don't you son.

With only 3 sentences in one post you you get all three wrong. 100% strike rate there buttercup.

If you had any idea of their business plan you would understand the move to RPT and where the market is.

If you even bothered to look properly you would see you dont even have the correct model aircraft.

If you were able to remove your cranium from your posterior you would know that "don't have long to last" has been said of and debunked by the team at JETGO from day 1, and guess what not only have they surpassed every single point that some expert here as said they wont make, they have done it quietly, profitably and professionally and gotten on with the job.

The excrement that you spew forth only serves to display your complete and utter lack of comprehension of fact or it confirms that you feel threatened by them as a competitor in the market (and probably rightly so) either way your only way to react to this potential threat to your own miserable existence, your are a poltroon of extraordinary proportion. So petal, crawl back under your rock where you came from and let the adults get on with the job at hand.

I would not normally play the man, as opposed the ball. However in this case Chocks, you have no balls to play..... so the man it must be.

I think you are full of it Chocks. l'll bet you don't even know the Townsville refueller!

Obviously nobody has told Jetgo they have "not long to last"... take a look at FlightAware:

History ? VH-JZG ? FlightAware

History ? VH-JTG ? FlightAware

History ? VH-JGB ? FlightAware

... Gone flying!!!

Actually what I hear is all positive and that Jetgo is one of the only operators who actually pay their bills on time.... maybe you should give JR a call and give him some business advice!

As for the security charges XPT I don't think it is quite as big a deal as you think... an extra $12 or so for inbound pax is realistically just part of the price these days for flying into SYD or BNE. Although the whole security requirements are BS they are a fact of life we have to deal with... Jetgo could have bought cheaper ERs and avoided some security screening requirements, but I reckon having the extra MTOW on the LR allows their ERJs to tanker fuel which would save them a lot more money not having to pay the ridiculous fuel prices and call out fees at country airports.

so where would they fly on a RPT basis ?
 

You'd avoid the mess at SYD, BNE & MEL like the plague.


With 36 seats you could only offer a service comparable in prices to QF & VA, but without all the delays, parking hassles, security, +DELAYS, DELAYS DELAYS etc.


Perhaps Essendon or Moorabbin to Bankstown ?


Getting to western Sydney, which think I read is now the 4th biggest metropolis in Australia, is very time consuming.


Security charges from these airports though would be very high as they would be the only ones paying for it & so would need lots of flights everyday to spread the cost.


If on the other hand they somehow had their aircraft "recertified" by manufacturer at under 20,000 kg, they would not require any security.

Interesting to sit here and watch what the naysayers had to say about Jetgo at the start...... and they are STILL here. One doesn't hear any real negative about them out in the marketplace as a rule..... no bitter employees bagging the people that that pay them, no disgruntled creditors.... squat, nada.... not a sausage.
On the other hand, they are going into a tough market and won't be getting too much help. One would hope they have low overheads, management that have industry experience, an aggressive attitude and a workforce that is onside.
They mightn't get as big as Ben Hur but one thinks they might do a Cobham and if so, that makes sense and gives security to all involved. A good story for once..... not often that happens. Take note Allan!!!

new office in SYdney
 

if getting a new office in Sydney, then where will there routes be ?


Out of Sydney ?


Bankstown to ?


Essendon or Moorabbin ?


Archerfield maybe ?


Anyone have any clues ?

Neck deep in a SAR tender using the Embraers? :ugh: How did I know that was going to go ahead...

Some people really should listen to those who know what they are talking about, and I'm not talking about the owners of Jetgo...

what about Wellcamp/SYD ?
 

surely Skytrans TWB/SYD services will be "taken over" by a jet service from Wellcamp/SYD ?

Although won't be cheaper, will be much quicker, although Wellcamp might be able to support a local based jet that's bigger than anything Jetgo have.


You'd think that with all the future FIFO to Wellcamp, this could be combined with RPT to justify a 737 type regular service, ie up to twice a day.

yes Wellcamp (called Brisbane West) makes sense. When does Wellcamp expect to open ?

October 2014

TEABAGS- :mad:sh#t!

Security DOES "add extra cost" even by your mates' admittance mentioned below your vitriol! So correct comment.:ok:

My "ER" to your "LR"...:ugh: splitting hairs. You knew what was being said.

Tough market in Australia? Correct! :ok:
The "Townsville Refueller's" take on it? The jury is still out :E
...and for your information I knew the "Townsville Refueller" very well and where/how the actual saying started, for many years back when you were still in yuh dad's bag!

Your vitriol and venom is testament as to why a very experienced; highly qualified & respected ex-chief pilot of yours couldn't get away from you fast enough! :rolleyes:

Oh... by the way, don't you even call me your son, talking down to me like that again, I'm NOT your son!

Good luck in your efforts anyway.

To my knowledge the company has only ever had one Chief Pilot and he's still in the role. You should really get your facts straight fella. Doesn't paint your cynicism in a very good light when your 'facts' aren't.

:rolleyes:

... wotajoke :} DO YOUR research before you start trying to take people down.
Makes you look like a real amateur sounding like you came down in the last rain shower otherwise :ugh:
(Bye bye, much better things to do.)

Facts Straight
 

Speaking of Amateurs Here's a fact for you from the horse's mouth, JETGO has only ever had one Chief Pilot...

Cop that

What was that you were saying Chocks?

:ugh:

JetGo moving ahead
 

To get back on track, JetGo are still around and have been busy chipping away behind the scenes. There are a number of routes and contracts out there that would sit perfectly within the JetGo model and I have no doubt they will have some additional news in coming months.
Keep in mind that JetGo have a decent aircraft type when compared to some of the other charter operators out there with 30 year old dinosaurs. JetGo have a better airline structure and a good focus on safety, compliance and aviation skills, again unlike some of their crappy competition who have done very little to impress the regulator with their continued issues, endless non conformances and pathetic due diligence.

Let's give JetGo a go :ok:

Give em a Go
 

Best post Iv'e seen in the two years Cactus, thats all we ask. We are having a go and not just talking about it. Also spot on about a company update soon. New website live in a couple of weeks will tell all..

thanks others for your support... still hiring BTW!

Go
 

It's fcuking awesome that an Aussie company can move forward in aviation.

Australia as we know just love to kick the successful entrepreneur.

:ugh: My mistake, Check & Training Manager, (not Jason).

You're all right Jack.
 

Personally, I wouldn't have phrased quite like that, but I can agree with the sentiment. What Jetgo have achieved is remarkable – any where in the world; but even more so to have done it in Australia. The blood, sweat and tears alone needed to achieve finance credibility and finding a financier with the "vision" to back an Australian aviation enterprise, speaks of remarkable abilities and a rock solid business plan. Having managed to find the dollars, next comes the AOC challenge; the costs are staggering, the difficulties even with a realistic CASA team, first class "library" and even with all the ducks in a neat row it's no easy task; definitely not one for the feint hearted or amateur dreamer.

Having achieved so much they still have to survive and prosper in a tough environment. I'm with Jack – put envy and the tall poppy clippers aside. Credit where it's due and a Fair go for Jetgo.

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Jet-Go have an ad on AFAP looking for DEC and FO spots. They must be doing well, does anyone know what the conditions are like?

The add says you have to be willing to fund your own endorsement with Jetgo paying the cost back to you over 2 years.